Invisible Empire..

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    Cheers nice 1 - stuck this 2 my favourites when got time.
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    Nice1 man, you'll enjoy this like :)
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    Is this the same stuff you sent me on facebook, saying that you wouldn't dare post it on here? :lol:
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    Jason Bermas is bent on world domination. The evidence is all around if you care to look for it. He is part of a shadowy group which works in secret to undermine the governments of the world. Known variously as 'The Conspiracy Theorists' or 'The Gullible' they assemble and collate half truths, out of context quotes, coincidence, cock ups and linguistic tics to create a sense of fear and powerlessness among the peoples of the world. They rely on an undereducated populace who are easily manipulated into a belief system which draws on the yearning for meaning in a complex and purposeless universe. They will reduce our once proud civilisation to a heap of gibbering idiocy. They must be stopped. Please, copy and paste this message whenever you see the words 'New World Order' 'The Illuminati' or 'Tinfoil Hat'.
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    it's cleverly done I'll give you that.
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    Rory. It doesnt matter how hard you try - 99.999 percent of people don't wanna know anything other than mainstream groupthink and popular conjecture.

    You could scream in peoples faces that 1 + 1 = 2 for hours on end, but until BBC news stops telling you that 1 + 1 = 3 they will think you are nuts.

    I've kind of distanced myself these days from the 'truth movement' (for various reasons) these days, but i can honeslty say that i think Jason Bermas is a stand up guy - But once again, it's irrelevant what you say or he says - People don't on a fundamental level want to entertain the fact their world is a cleverly managed system where the 'baddies' not only go unpunished, but run amock.

    People will cling onto their programmed ideas to grave, mostly because their worlds would fall apart if they dared to peel back the thin veneer of their 'truth'. It's easier to live in the dark.
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    So you believe the world is cleverly managed? ha ha ha ha ha.
    It's a load of power hungry venal people running around trying to grab a bigger slice of the pie for themselves at everyone else's expense. Whenever anyone tries to organise anything, someone else steps in to fuck it up. There is no overarching conspiracy, no powerful elite organising all our lives. It's just a bunch of tossers trying to climb up a greasy pole and pushing each other off whenever they get the chance.
    I could go through that Jason Bermas film and take it apart line by line but it's really not worth the effort and i can't be bothered. I don't believe most of what I read in the media or see on TV but neither do I believe Jason Bleeding Bermas who is just another cretin with an ego.
    It's not organised it's not controlled it's always been the same . The big guy screws the little guy, the rich guy screws the poor guy, the rich country screws the poor country, the politicians like us to believe they are in charge when they are just at the mercy of random events and the uneducated are easy pray for charlatans. They just aren't clever enough, any of them.
    Truth Movement my arse.
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    I agree with forks - it's all a bunch of greedy bastards trying to scramble to the top of the pile whilst stamping on everyone below them.

    I have no doubt that there are some groups who think they can control the world in the manner laid out in this vid, but I seriously doubt they have the resources or influence to exact it. But hey, don't let a boring truth detract from a much more exciting fiction...
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    The film uses archive footage and removes all context, then uses it to argue it's point. Example; when Bush the first is talking about 'a new world order' he's talking about something completly different, it removes all context from the clip - end of the cold war, the first Gulf war, end of ideology etc It's nonsense.

    'Every question you've ever had about corruption within politics is here from as far back as the 1900s, from deals with the american governments & the nazi's, to the CIA sneaking billions of dollars worth of weapons & drugs in & out of the states etc.' These thing are not hidden away, they are a matter of public record, look at any history of 20th century global politics, they're there.
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    I don't think its a 'conspiracy' (well, most things) any more. It's just a business protecting its own interests. The 'business' is everywhere and has many forms, but what we need to just realise is that we are the cogs in the wheel, the sheep in the pens, or whatever you call it.

    Things like 'democracy' and 'justice' are just things to keep us quiet, and controlling each other. We would be an unorganised rabble if so.

    Look at countries all around the world that pass between rulers, governments and political uprisings in much shorter cycles than we do. They are third world countries and living in filth for the most part. The UK and USA are fortunate enough to live in the vague idea that we have a 'choice' but think about it - the LAST thing we need is the boat being rocked. And that is why it aint. We have a few crumbs thrown to us to give us the illusion that what we say matters.

    It doesnt ;)

    Which is why all our leaders are educated at Eton, and the likes of you and me don't get a sniff at power. It's entirely beyond us.

    It comes full circle when you look at this 'conspiracy' - I've just come to the conclusion that i have no say in anything, and i might as well just live my life working with it, and working around it. Too many people waste their lives fretting over politics and supposed shadowy figures thinking that if we take to the streets it's gonna make a difference. Get real eh.
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    Our leaders are educated at Eton and the like because it's still an old-boys establishment. It makes you part of the old-boys club (like Oxford/Cambridge) and it opens doors. Like everything else in life, it's not what you know, it's who you know. It's self-fulfilling, the people who go there do so to climb up the ladder, the people already on the ladder help them up, and so on. It's just like politicians (and ironically, a lot of them become politicians). Establishments like this wax and wane - you might find in a few decades that it's on the decline and the focus on them evaporates.

    The thing with democracy in our current system is that no matter who votes for who, the wishes of the majority are respected but only to a point. This means there will always be a minority (sometimes a sizeable one) who don't get what they want. We've seen it in recent elections - Labour getting a majority government with less than half of the country voting for them. The system is broken and needs mending and improving, but walking away from it all declaring "it's fucked and I can't do anything about it" is self-fulfilling and far too easy ;)
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    Was it ever 'fixed' (as in not broken) to begin with?

    Do you honestly think the monarchy suddenly decided to hand all their spoils back to the people one day under 'democracy' ?

    I really don't think our etonian overloads want the 'riff raff' rising to power with a few good ideas and a placard.

    Why else would the BNP be almost illegally blocked from having 'freedom of speech' even though it is (supposedly) a bona fide political party? (I hate them before anyone starts).

    The only freedom we have, is to do and say exactly what they want us to ;)
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    Anything constructed by homo sapiens is imperfect and flawed by definition. Expecting a perfect system that accomodates everyone and everything isn't going to make it happen.

    The problem is that the system has spawned a group of people who know how to play it for their own ends and to keep themselves in comfort and power. It seems like it doesn't matter who wins and loses out of our politicians, they all stay in work and they don't do anything to jeopardise it... But there's nothing sinister about that, it's the greed and selfishness of human nature.

    Our politicians should be in it to look after their constituents who they represent and not for themselves, but if that was the case, I'd imagine there's be far less people trying to climb the greasy pole...
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    Politicians are by their very definition, sociopaths tho.

    What kind of mind, outside of hollywood movies and completely fake/idealistic, feels the need to control other people?

    No doubt we are told about a very few virtuous people who are in it for the right reasons. But they tend to be the ones who resign from their jobs on moral grounds, or suddenly die when they become a problem (usually while hill walking).
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    I've only watched a bit of this so far, but of course you never know what to believe.

    However, the point is that it opens the mind and lets you depict information that you believe or want to criticise. You don't have to necessarily preach or act upon it, or decide that you believe this or that 100%.
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    you can only decide what to believe when watching a film like that if you are educated enough to see when he's manipulating facts in order to manipulate your opinions. Otherwise it sounds so plausible you'll be taken in. Governments do the same thing, try to control what information is out there and spin it so it makes them look good.
    I agree with Brid that the only people who are going to get power are, by definition, those least suited to wield it, ie power hungry sociopaths, but it's interesting to think about why we don't have an absolute monarch any more. It came about by people fighting and dying for the right of parliament to be top dog and for people to have a vote. it took hundreds of years to arrive at the position we have now where we elect a government. Things can change if people get pissed off enough.

    It seems to me that we are heading for interesting times. We now have the most right wing government since late Victorian times trying to put through laws to dismantle the welfare stste and return us to the times when the poor knew their place and the rich drove over them like roadkill. When the savage nature of this all becomes apparent ( which, for most people, it aint yet) there will be riots. There is nothing those in power fear except the power of the mob, which can topple any tyrant.

    For the whole of our lives we have lived in relative security and comfort, this is about to change. Who knows what might happen?
    We are not as complacent as it looks. Things can and do change. The internet is a force for change as big as the printing press, which swept away the old feudal society. Information is power. That's why I hate conspiracy theories, They are disinformation like propaganda and spin
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    I have read all of the previous arguments and suggest you read the one true un-touched paper in the country. THE SUN
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    Yeah, but most of the time it's more 1 (which is unsubstantiated, but honestly I'm ever so sincere)+ (seriously, trust everything I say, just not them) = 2

    I'm looking forward to watching this video, but only because rory's inclination as to which videos were reliable/informative/convincing in the past have been pretty fucking crap.

    Rory, I've tried to draw you into discussion regarding the shite you post on here almost every single time you've done so, and I don't think you've ever bothered to respond. Anybody's world view is extremely important stuff, but it would appear that you're not at all interested in changing your own, whilst actively trying to alter those of others.

    Bit fucking ironic innit?

    Bit like believing everything you read on a youtube video, but nothing you read in the media (youtube)?
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    Does it really though?

    Rory - instead of being such a dimwit I suggest you work on this. Maybe develop your own belief system:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

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