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  1. psycaholic

    psycaholic Registered User

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    just behind you he he
    trust me the parents and people of liverpool couldn't hate them any more than they allready do
    psycaholic, Jan 24, 2007
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    That makes it ok then.
    Oasis, Jan 24, 2007
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    So what if it's singling out one case, it doesn't make a difference if these two get treated worse than some other murderer. Afterall, they're murderers, they should be treated worthless to the society they live in. Maybe it will make the government change the law.

    Vote for the Lib Dems, I read in the paper that they propose to make a life sentence LIFE behind bars and not the average of 11years which it is now.
    Oasis, Jan 24, 2007
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  4. J

    J Mummy To A Baby Boy

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    Theyd say anything to get more votes
    J, Jan 24, 2007
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    Ive never understood that. Why sentance someone to however many years when they are defo not gonna complete it? Why not make it more realistic? Or uphold it? Im confused :(
    Cookee, Jan 24, 2007
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    they've already been released havent they? :confused:
    Ness, Jan 24, 2007
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  7. J

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    I still dont understand how they can use the term 'sentenced to life' then serve them to a maximum of 15+ years :mad:
    J, Jan 24, 2007
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  8. Oasis

    Oasis Peter North-east

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    I thought they were released a couple of years back. :spangled:
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    Yep, it's daft! They should get a sentence and then if they're good they get out on time, if they're bad in prison then it should be made longer.

    People only ever serve half of a sentence. WTF!
    Oasis, Jan 24, 2007
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    5 years actually, nearly 6. was in 2001!!!

    wonder what made this subject surface?
    Ness, Jan 24, 2007
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  11. Oasis

    Oasis Peter North-east

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    :lol: They're probably lapping up the sun on a tropical beach right now. Lucky buggers!
    Oasis, Jan 24, 2007
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    psycoholic you're a fucking idiot. Have you actually bothered to read in detail about this case?

    Both of Bulger's killers weren't old enough, both in the eyes of the law, and in the view of society in general, to understand the enormity or severity of what they'd done.

    Neither of them was sentenced to life imprisonment, they were given 10 years during which time according to Lord Woolf upon his review of their conduct: "neither has shown any aggression or propensity for violence during his detention. They have worked hard in pursuing their education and, given their circumstances, have considerable achievements to their credit." (link here)

    I don't condone murder, and I can't defend their actions, but I do believe that they didn't understand what they did and that they deserve a second chance. As for punishment, both show genuine remorse for their crimes and in all likelyhood it'll haunt them for the rest of their lives. In addition, they're not completely free; they're on release on what is called a "life licence", as far as I understand it they can be re-imprisoned immediately if they break the terms of their parole or are seen to be posing a threat to the general public.

    The whole point of the justice system is that people atone for their crimes, and are then allowed free after their sentence or punishment is carried out. Maybe you should remember that in the eyes of the law, they've served their punishment, and if they were still a threat to society, they wouldn't have been released.
    Conway, Jan 24, 2007
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    They shouldn't of been let out so soon whether they've been well behaved or not. When i was 10 years old I knew exactly what i was doing and I'm sure most people on here did, I certainly wouldn't of done that to a baby.
    Oasis, Jan 24, 2007
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    I've seen the sheer number of kids we get at work who get caught shoplifting and don't "know" it's wrong. Most of them are just teenagers who've been dared to pinch something and they don't see what could happen as a result of their actions.

    Some kids of that age understand the concept of right and wrong extremely well because of their upbringing, because their parents take the time to teach them. I doubt these two did, you should look at their backgrounds:

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    You can't tell me from the upbringing they had that they understood the concepts of right and wrong as well as we did as kids? Even if they did, the law itself does not class them as adults with good reason.
    Conway, Jan 24, 2007
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    My little brothers 11 he understands the concept of right and wrong but he's still a little sh1t when he's amongst his friends and feels the need to show off
    J, Jan 24, 2007
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    There's a difference between shoplifting and murder, i can see you only used it as an example but I used to shoplift when i was a kid.

    Did these 2 lads go to school?
    Oasis, Jan 24, 2007
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    Pikey
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  18. psycaholic

    psycaholic Registered User

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    just behind you he he
    there are millions of kids the world over who go through shit like that , why are they any diffrent ? my god for a clever guy you can be so fuckin stupid sometimes


    so if the law couldn't treat them as adults , why then cos of the severity of the case where they tried as adults at the old bailey then
    psycaholic, Jan 24, 2007
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    How do you think I got you those Christmas presents?
    Oasis, Jan 24, 2007
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  20. Cookee

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    Lmao! :lol:
    Cookee, Jan 24, 2007
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