the Illuminati

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  1. ManofScience

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    humans are stupid anyway, if we knew half of what we think we know, there would be anarchy and chaos. Thank god those clever lizards rule us and keep us in check :up:
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    Proudy, have you seen?

    - Endgame
    - The Obama Deception
    - America destroyed by design
    - Fabled Enemies
    - 7/7 ripple effect

    All videos out on the net .... if your into this kind of stuff you'll love those.
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    Never heard of any of them? I'll definitely check them all out, Gracias! :up:

    I've just started to get into the Oaklahoma City bombings but I'll certainly get on these.
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    Check out Barbera Olsens phonecall from flight 77. You can actually listen to the audio clip.

    ...Does she really sound like her planes just been Hijacked by Arab Muslims? she seems as calm as a Cucumber.
    ...How was she able to make that phone call from that hieght/speed of the aircraft with a Cell phones that didn't hold that kind of technology/capability back in 2001?

    Or better still:

    Check out the list of all the Muslim Hijackers that was published in connection with the autrocities.

    ...Oh & how 6 of the accused were reported soon after still alive & well in different parts of the world.
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    this has actually been a really good read, i've been a firm believer of the US admin orchestrating the whole thing. proper sour and offside.

    MOS - i'm sorry but the tinfoil hat crew do come across as the stronger argument. and there have been loads of mistakes with information released etc. so aye - the arguement rages on i suppose.

    Bush didnt do it like, he's a fucking thick cunt who couldent tie his fucking laces properly.

    "the new world order was born on september 11"

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    Theres a sound at the end of that call which sounds like someone whispering 'you did great' ..... like she was being prompted to say it ;)

    TIN FOIL HAT FIRMLY ON!!!!
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    here was a channel 4 docu which explained in a perfectly logical way the engineering design of the twin towers steelwork and how it collapsed the way it did. It made absolute sense to me.
    Anyone who thinks there are a race of superhuman beings with the organisational competence to arrange a stunt like 9/11 and never be found out is living in cookoo land.
    A conspiracy on that scale just could not be kept quiet indefinately. I'm sure if you went back and looked at flaws in the Pearl Harbour story you could deduce that the Japanese didn't do it and so on.
    If these guys are so powerful and clever how come they didn't make the New American Century happen then?
    Or are we now to believe it was all done by the Chinese or elves or whatever. People are too useless to organise stuff like this. Just look at the history of warfare through the ages
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    So why did the CIA plan operation northwoods then, which was pretty much a carbon copy blueprint for what happened (or might have happened) on 9/11.

    People dont even need to know THAT much about whats going on, all it takes is a few nods and a few pay-offs and the right bits of 'evidence' being planted.

    Bin Laden (who never actually said he carried out 911) was formerly a CIA asset back in the days of the Mujahadeen (sp?) when they were trying (as always) to destablilise Iran .... Is there any difference in what people like him were doing back then, and potentially what happened in current times?

    War is nearly always followed by massive social change as laws are enacted and more and more control is asserted over those who are involved. If you have a herd of people that you want to take from one field to the next, you need some EVENT to stimulate a stampede.

    The public would have never accepted all the things we calmly just go along with these days if there wasnt a boogie man to scare us into thinking its for our own good.
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    I watched it. It's easy to take any series of events and with hindsight put scary inferences on it. I bet there are exercises taking place every day in all western states playing out every conceivable threat, terrorist or otherwise so that the authorities know what to do if one of them happens. If one of them subsequently DOES happen and conspiracy theorists look back and find that the security forces played out that scenario beforehand they will point to that as evidence that the authorities KNEW all along. And so on.
    I'm not denying that covert operations take place all the time and that states conspire to make things go their way. It just seems to me on the balance of probabilities that it is more likely that terrorists planned the operation and carried it out.

    It would be fairly easy to do, security of planes on internal flights was minimal and once you had control of the jet it's a fairly simple matter to fly it into something as big as the twin towers. If it was an illuminati bunch of people they would have had a much more difficult task. Especially if they had been planning it since 1984.
    I doubt the terrorists thought the towers would collapse. That was just a bonus for them.

    You only have to look at Bush's face when he was told about the hit to realise he knew fuck all about it beforehand.
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    aye cos he really leapt out of his seat and went to prepare his country didnt he :lol:
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    aye he was a chimp really
  14. ManofScience

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    loose change has been massively widely discredited, clever edits, made up stuff - the lot.

    It can't be true - rory space believes it.



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    I believe the Illuminati exist - have done for years. Its just a shame that you've got goons like David Icke saying there all Lizards because it puts a massive joke on the whole conspiracy.

    I think the way they work is very clever. They indirectly stur international tensions knowing they will lead to events that will swing things in their favour. 9/11 is an example of it. The relationship between the middle east and the west leading up to events was getting worse with every day that passed. It was only a matter of time before a terrorist cell would attack America on a massive scale. All the worlds leaders had to do was sit back and wait, feed the public propaganda through mainstream media and declare their ''war on terror''. Greed and power are what they thrive on and controlling the middle east is a bigger step towards a new world order.

    Many people wont accept that the system they believe in would be responsible for thousands of deaths but dont forget that they dont hesitate to send thousands of soldiers to their deaths in unnecessary wars like Iraq.

    Nobody knows whats going on for certain but you'd be an idiot if you believe someone like George Bush was the most powerfull man in the world.
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    Instead of reading all the papers & listening to the mainstream news check out some of the free press & the 9/11 podcasts. Some real credible figures on there ranging from ex-secret service/CIA whistleblowers, Architects, Engineers, Scholars, Firefighters, Scientists etc... all giving an empirical view to 9/11, no bullshit, no bogus stories about planes being remotely controlled etc.. just solid scientific or 1st hand evidence to counter or debunk the wildest story of them all... the official version.

    Check out 'Visibility 9/11' Podcast by a guy called Michael wolsley, he's had some really interesting guests on.
  17. ManofScience

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    ease down maverick - you're just an easy target with your tiesto bumming and wacky text speak :wink:
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    proudy's a cock, brid's a tin foil hat wearing shandy drinker and keiran... well. he's from shields.

    feel better now baba?
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    Well these super powerful people haven't been doing such a great job on controlling the middle east now have they? the place is a fucking mess. Rich people help themselves get richer, power hungry people try to get more powerful is all.
    The idea that a shadowy elite need to bother blowing up the twin towers to help them gain world domination is a joke. The rich and powerful look after their own interests and form temporary alliances with others if it will be mutually beneficial and when it's not they don't. They don't need to do stuff like that. ~They own the world already.
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    - more thought provoking and more literate writing tommorow when i get the chance

    (this should really be moved into the genral discussion forum like hew)

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