The beheading of the american

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  1. Glitter Angel

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    no...but he asked me to name something theycve done... so i did...
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    They do salads too! McDonalds are healthy now..;) :D
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    :dunce: i wasnt reading properly, sorry..
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    Of all the shit this stupid fucking planet is in right now... its obvious that we can point fingers at a number of problems... including religion. Its easy to call it the scapegoat etc etc but its one of the reasons along with capitalistic imperialism that we have gotten ourselves into such a mess.

    As a speciest, we should have come far enough to universally agree that religion is unneccesary... Im sure theres people to say otherwise but at the end of the day its not right to control people by playing on basic human emotions - We should have passed this point right now.

    Capitalism and the west is the same. We live in a world where we slog our guts out on a day to day basis just to make the minority richer and richer while we convince ourselves that the weekend is something to be miserable 5 days out of 7 for.. or that buying a pair of trainers that cost 20p to make by some nameless poor person on the other side of the world... somehow makes us better than the poor sod next to us. As much as the muslim religion is fucking up the planet right now (as christianity did in the past), than our worship of the capitalist systems which suppress people in another way at the expense of others is equally wrong.


    Its right to blame religion, but people need to blame the countries they are a part of and the systems we all take part in, on a day to day basis that have gotten us in the shit to begin with.

    Until we get some decent leaders on this planet... we're heading to absolute armageddon.... and we arent gonna get anyone like that anytime soon - its just a matter of time before we're all universally fucked..... maybe in a million years time someone will look at us all as a species like we do with the dinosaurs.
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    what an insightful post....
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    What a pretentious capitalist western comment... As capitalists we are born with nothing, spend our entire life greedly trying to live a luxurious lifestyle and die with nothing... We are never content and always envious of the next man, wanting a bigger house or better job...

    An alternative would be say becoming hare krishna, your born with nothing, live a content life banging drums and getting spirritual kicks, you die with nothing... but at least you lead a content life.

    Now who has lived the richer life - jealous capitalist or the hare krishna... So don't give me that bullshit about evolving as a species...

    Christians slated jews, jews slated muslims, muslims slated sikhs... This has happened since the beginning of time - do you think capitalist arrogance is any different to religious arrogance... Its easy to blame a religion, its harder to blame humans.

    The reality is you can't get more admirable than most religious teaching, they have provided the moral fibre of society for centures.... To blame something so respectable for their own manipulation is retarded... You find me one mainstream evil religion and I'll eat humble pie.

    Its cultural arrogance that leads to the dismissal of cultural groups like religion. We pressume we have evolved further/are doing the right thing/etc. when in reality its just an alternative lifestyle... Religion isn't the cause of wars - humans are... if it wasn't religion it would be whatever replaced it (the cold war for example).

    Religion is an easy scapegoat - fact.
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    As always Joe, you make a good point... but theres absolutely no reason why we, over any other animal on this earth - should wage so much war, unhappiness and general malaise because of all the movements we've invented for ourselves - religion, capitalism... they are all out of date and shouldnt be the basis for this next millenium which we have so shabbily begun in such misery.

    Personally.. i fucking detest shows like Startrek... - but i bet you in years to come we all look back on beliefs and systems like what we have now as relics of more barbaric times, which they so cheesily do from an idealistic viewpoint.

    Theres no chance in hell we can go on like we are right now. we'll blow each other up or learn to live together without this bullshit.
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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Not to mention that:

    Most of the countries in question here have:

    Economies dependent on one or two industries due to past colonialism
    No chance of modernising and escaping them due to IMF, World Bank, WTO and Western govenments forcing them to open their markets to competition but keeping trade barriers up in the west
    An AIDS pandemic that could be controlled if GlaxoSmithKline and others sold their drugs at fair prices. Not too much to ask when you take in to consideration that Glaxo did NOT ONE SECOND of research in to discovering that they had an anti-retroviral drug that could alleviate AIDS suffering. The US government discovered it for them and asked them to test it on humans, at which Glaxo patented the drug and left 5 people a minute to die of AIDS in Africa.

    On the other hand, countries such as Chille, Botswana, South East Asian countries and even to an extent Ethiopia have done very well by resisting the immense pressure to be further raped and pillaged from the western powers to

    Nobody can deny that some, indeed many governments and leaders have been corrupt and harmed their own countries. But to say they are the main cause is utter right-wing rhetoric of the tallest order.
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    I've just saw the video and that was fucking disgusting.

    If our media report on iraqi's being tortured was fake, the media buildings involved in making it public should be fucking torched with the bastards that spread it burning in it.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, and the tortures did actually happen.
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    actually most of the curries you find in a western indian restaurant originate from the far north of India but mainly pakistan, and they are "muslim dishes" (my source was an Indian christian historian who taught me Indian history while i was living there....incase you wondered)
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    :lol: 10 pages of posts...and that's the best one :up: :D
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    :eek: just seen the vid...its pretty awful, but not as bad as i was expecting, probs coz it isnt good quality....which im glad!!

    pretty sick non the less though :(
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    I'm not gonna watch it cos I'm a wuss :(
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    These two sentences have come from different parts of your post. The reason being... that not all Arabs are muslim. At least 5% of the Arabs living in Israel/occupied Palestine (depending on your views but I subscribe to the latter) are Christian, for example.

    It isn't? Again? When were we last attacked by Iraq? :confused: We colonized it once, and now we have again. How come the US administration in Iraq has sold off over 200 Iraqi sate owned industries to foreign investors, who have shed hundreds of thousands of jobs from these companies. This is a practice which is illegal under international law.

    It's a sad state of affairs, but I believe that what the Muslim world has started the west will finish in one way or another. [/B][/QUOTE]

    In addition, Arabs have made an enormous contribution to culture. Do you read Arab literature? Do you listen to Arab music, which would clearly be extremely diverse? Probably not. Just because you do not like what music you have heard from the East, does not make it any less good than our taste.
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    Just seen the video...

    Sick.:(
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    Couldnt they have found a bigger fuking knife?
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    That video is extremely fucking disturbing....

    ...the fact that its real really makes it a hell of a lot worse.

    fucking sick, definatley will not be watching that again :(
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    Thats all they could afford off the western countries company who supplied it.

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