Should evolution be taught in schools?

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You quoted a simplification so that his target audience understood?

I find it astounding that andy_rocks would label one of MIT's leading nuclear professors an idiot

speaks volumes andy.

thats not what I said....

are you suggesting that the above have been subject to more research than man?

why are you bringing up creationism in an evolution thread... you seem unable to defend your own beliefs so you attack those of others.

In a court of law do you have to prove who did kill professor plumb in the conservatory with lead piping to prove that miss peacock didn't?

Where on earth do you reach the INSANE notion that you have to provide an alternative to disprove something?!?!?!?!

You're the worst scientist in the history of science...

Andy why do you keep insisting on writing G-d? Are you jewish?

Seems particularly ignorant.

Stop picking on the biology teachers, what about the PE teachers (sport scientists) who say it's a scientific fact that taking part in violent, sadistic team games is good for your personal development !!

Never trust anyone who claims to be a scientist ..... (I can think of one person in particuar on here )

it's more a life style and a way of thinking........

And, next time somebody tells you that something is true, why not say to them: "What kind of evidence is there for that?" And if they can't give you a good answer, I hope you'll think very carefully before you believe a word they say.
what evidence is there for abiogenisis and cosmic evolution?

I keep telling you the evidence for stellar evolution and you keep ignoring it.
It's not conclusive 120% gold plated, diamond studded, cast iron proof because the time scales are too long. It's a theory which fits all the known and observable facts. like all science it is able to be modified or overturned if new evidence comes to light. It is the THEORY of evolution ffs

stellar and cosmic evolution are two seperate things... you're getting confused.

There is no evidence for stellar evolution, man has witnessed stars go from red giants to white dwarfs, he's witnessed the decay and death of stars... yet the birth of stars has never been documented - untill one is documented it remains a THEORY!

also I ripped apart your other post a few pages back

saying that something has not been seen is not the same as saying there is no evidence for it. I have not seen you but I beleive you exist on the basis of the evidence available to me.

define cosmic evolution. I don't know what it is supposed to mean

No as a self perpetuating chemical is a million miles from a life form.....

Thats like me saying if I can prove I can eat 1 sausage roll in a day will you believe I can eat all the sausage rolls that exist in a week?

I asked for cosmic evolution... the origins of the universe.

ask him both though... I'd like that.

origin of the universe.

forks all we know is stars came into existence as some point as we witness them in the present.... there is no evidence (only theories) of them being born.

science and religion are two seperate things....

one is based on observation, the other introspection.

on one level we are all just self replicating chemicals

the origins of the universe. well you don't want much do you?
some advanced ape on some insignificant planet on the edge of an insignificant galaxy 5 billion years after the event is going to PROVE this beyond ALL doubt to your satisfaction? I don't think so.

Evolution provides a theory that a chemical can turn into a life form... there is no evidence, no detailed explanations, at best you have some educated guesses.

Why do you keep on avoiding the answer by bringing creationism into the discourse? I'm stating there is NO (not even a little) evidence for cosmic evolution.... We don't know how the universe came into existence and any scientist that tells you otherwise is lying.

We're also made out of atoms - but an isolated atom can't make me a cup of tea.

I'm not asking for proof I'm asking for one shred of evidence... the most tiniest of details.

If youre teahcing a scientific theory in schools, you'd think one ought to be able to supply a little evidence...

not so. all religions have at their base an observation of the world around us an an attempt to explain the phenomena we are surrounded by. The complexity of the world (and the human heart) seemed best explained by a deity in the absence of any scientific knowledge. Hence gods.

The only person repeatedly bringing up G-d in this debate is you.... THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION.