Promise and Goodgreef

Theres very few UK clubs that can pull 3000 punters... Retro is an established tall trees night which is accessable to all (clubbers, brick layers. slappers), GG is a very focused night (I'd say a younger clubbing market) which is new to tall trees, it takes time to establish a night (even if its nationally known brand).. it'll peak then the figures will drop they always do... however as more locals make it their local and word spreads the figures hopefully rise again.

To pull over 1500 clubbers on a regular basis with a new night is very hard... I find it hard to believe GG will pull 7000 clubbers on a regular basis as its a smaller target audience, but think if they play their cards right they could well get 3000 on a monthly basis....

You gotta remember GG-TT's is still in its infancy

problem with TT is no matter what night you put on, there are going to people there becuase it is TT and unfortunately alot fo them are cunts. nothing done by promoters or staff will ever change this.

i am very pro GG-TT its on my doorstep! would love to see it become something amazing, just very dissapointed after the last one!

Wouldnt know mate since Ive been going to the GoodGreef nights I aint had any trouble from anyone. I hear Retro is the main problem cause EVERYONE goes there, clubbers, beer boys and all the rest so theres bound to be trouble if the clubs full up.

GG has cut down on the trouble makers though cause its hard dance and all the beer boys and charvas dont usually like hard dance, as soon as it starts getting softer, Signum for example, the beer boys and charvas roll in and the grief starts.

Unfortunatly unlike other clubs that are beer monster friendly 6 nights a week and clubber friendly for the other night - Tall trees is to large to lose their beer monsters... They need big crowds and that usually means varied crowds...

however some clubs pull both crowds and have very little bother:

Sundis HQ and North both pull avery varied crowd but you rarely get bother.
Gatecrasher pulls more gumbies than any club I've been to and if your not a gumbie your likely to be a beer monster who's seen it on rapture... yet theres rarely bother there.

The hard job gg have is changing the culture of tt's (@least on their night) from its larger louts on the piss atmosphere to a friendly clubbing atmosphere... nice easy challenge for them

in my opinion the harder it is, the more the charvas love it!

they just jump up and down faster

Most "beer boy" "charva's" I know love hard dance, reminds em of happycore... its their girlfriends that usually drag em off 2 the funky room

girls can't stomach hard music

Not sure about that, Tynesides stripey jumpers luv the fookin bangin stuff.

THE SPENCE

Dunno then, Ive been to Retros and Judgment Sundays and seen shit loads of fights and trouble but never at a hard dance night.......saying that I spend all night in the middle of the dance floor so thats probably why.

Aint been 2 TT's GG so i can't comment... but insomniacz used to always get dodgey cunts... there was often fights - but the doormen were usually fast to stop em so you rarely noticed them

Re: Promise and Goodgreef

Will def make the effort to get to TT for this!

There good in Tall Trees aswell and for anyone who aint been before the clubs full of security cameras especially the lads toliets.

I'll look forward to this night now, should be good meeting some of you from here.

Is there a coach sorted? I might be able to see Barry or Ben about getting one organized if you want?

Here's hoping that Promise@Foundation will never attract the lager louts.

Mind you at the big events, like Mauro Picotto on 15 November, Promise pulled a massive crowd and a few then.

I love Promise mostly cos of its amazing crowd.

When is Ornadel next playing!?!?!?!?!?!!!

don't no when he's on next but we wont be seeing as much of him as we did last year...

The line up's are going to be much more varied thisyear (from the look of things) not the same 6 dj's on cycle.

I hope so.