PRODIGY AFTERPART Feat.. LEROY THORNHILL

Your thinking of minimal, vinyl is that stuff that sounds warm with loads of bass.

im surrounded by thousands of them

theres a thing with digital and the bass thing. vinyl can only cope with frequencies down to around 25hz. anything lower cant be cut. digital doesnt have that problem. but speakers do. so riddle me this batman, what has more bass, vinyl or digital?

Bass goes back up through the needle making tracks appear to have more bass than they maybe do.

Only terra horns hit 25hz in low end so it pretty pointless making tracks down that low as its just low end sub with out any outlet.



All cd's wav and mps cut frequencys out these frequencys interact to geather and make the perceived warmth on analogue tracks 0 and 1's are not as good as continous electrical current cut and put onto wax.



So the question is what has quality bass and why do a lot of drum&bass, dubstep,hiphop and real electro dj's still play off vinyl.

what is a real electro dj?

I.e original electro DJ's I-F, Ed Dmx , Dexorcist and oldschool all the Bronx guys who played the original 808 drum machine sounds over lots of low end drops and break beats not the 4/4 kick over a pre set synth patch.

Artist's for the newer stuff Aux 88, Egyptian lover (old school blue print), Dmx krew, Underground Resistance,Kronos Device, Bass Junkie,The Hacker all stuff that no one plays in Newcastle at mainstream nights yet steals the name of.

dont dis the 12's to those that know best

From what I've been told, Leeroy plays a Breaks/DnB set but normally ends on a very Prodigy-heavy oldskool set.

Considering he was in the band, I dont think you can say he doesn't have any love for the music (although, who am I to say? He could just as easily have more reason to hate the Prodigy than anyone else... but I doubt it).

As for upstairs, I'll be playing music that i like to people who I hope like it also.
Personally, I prefer to take a more Kevin Shields-ian approach to musical classification (it's either good... or bad), genres always seem to be a bit like musical racism to me.

im not sure what the connection is from electro funk to electro house. or why you've made a comparison. both are classed as electro music. both are real. one of them stopped being popular and one is now more popular than the former.

ok, back to the pops and clicks. as some one who runs a sound system, don't you worry about random excessive pops a crackles that come from worn vinyl? if you were to drive a system hard and then an unknown pop came from the vinyl, wouldn't it damage the system?

rich, if you're going to chime in, make it constructive, don't hang on to james' coattails please

geoff, i like that musical racism comment, it makes quite a lot of sense

jog on and go play some fidget.

i would like to go see leroy however work the next day , but he wasnt realy in the band was he , more like a BEZ , a dancer . they also lass they had before there was 4 of them ( a bit of factoid for you .

its too late at night

She wasn't called Anita was she?

Sounds mental, but I think I know her!

On the Electro comment Electro Funk is again is something else, Electro came from Hip hop and the 80's is breaks driven and use's an 808 for drops and often alot of its sounds, Modern producers still make it in this style in detroit and across europe. Look up Aux 88 Drexiciya, ed's label breakin Records it modern re-incarnation.

Electro House is really just house but with another marketing name so that poeple can follow another trend. Not that all of it is bad there are some great records/downloads whatever but it really is just another form of house its 4/4 and between 120-130 Bpm. So its not really Electro just house, the reason to make a distinction is that if advertised an electro night and put on aux 88 not Nathern Barley poepe might in for a surprise.

As for the pops and crackles thing where do i start, Cd's have scratchs,lap tops cause feed back and crash in warm clubs. So you have Limiters and processing that eliminate these problems before it hits the amps and the Final sound so a few crackles and pops is really nothing.

We did the sound for dj Format who played a section of his set from 7's with loads of scratching from him (not the vinyl) and it sounded amazing, just i have heard good laptop sets and awful ones it all about looked after your audio medium is .

anyone need a standing ticket for the arena? got one spare £35 if anyone wants it

i agree about the house thing. its the same as prog. that's just another version of house that made its own thing out of something else - as is the media's take on 'R&B' as hip pop a few years ago.

unfortunately that's the way we get new sounds. i like it. the 'true school' heads claiming they were the first to do something need to chill out though. without disco none of it would be here and before that, back to animal skinned drums and mud huts. its all a variation of something else, so i don't see the need to be protective over one sound or another. let nature take its course and let it evolve

when a cd skips it doesn't make a new noise. it just makes a repeated or stuttered version of what is already there. when vinyl pops, its an irregularity that's a new noise from the original pressing. i can make a noise by rubbing my finger against a stylus and its a new thing. the same as a scratch on a record.

limiting you say? isn't that a form of compression? don't they compress digital to make it smaller? so isnt compressing an analog signal not doing the same kind of damage as turning something in to a file?

it is all about how you keep and process your library at the end of the day. i've heard some truly fucking awful sets from laptop djs using 128k files (and sometimes less!). and i do agree with you, vinyl does have a better sound (my first comment was just in jest). however, in this day and age, unless its in a controlled environment (not a nightclub), nobody can tell the difference. with all the ipods, internet radio and limewire files, people have adapted to a lower quality and most dont know theres a better option, so they dont complain.

on a similar note, i was given a 7" of john lennon - imagine yesterday, and i'm still buzzin about it

My first comment was a joke as well i just enjoy the warmth of well produced analogue music on wax or even better live equipment.