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I'm just glad I share those lies with most the scientific nobel prize winners to date, I'm glad I share those lies with einstien & planck, I'm glad I share those lies with most the world leaders, I'm glad I share those lies with the majority of the worlds intellects.

guess we cant all be as sharp as you, I guess you in all your greatness is seeing something that we all miss

It's because people are brought up to believe it, that doesn't mean it's true.
Believe what you want mate.

yep its that simple.

Without startin a MASSIVE debate.. hasn't science already proved there is no god through evolution??

I understand faith and all that.. but surely this is all it is.. faith.. something for ppl to believe in and draw hope from?

Evolution is like watching the birth a of a child, you know that its growing but theres no way of visually observing how it was conceived.

Even if we were to ignore the flaws in evolution "theory" (from cosmic to macro, they all have holes), evolution does not explain existence - its merely a documentation on the progression of existence.

There is a discreet force behind the universe which harmonises all and makes the universe function; Einstien called it a G-d, Dawkins calls it the harmony of nature :spangled: But whatever you label it, it is there and its something that resonates throughout this space-time-continuum... it is the driving force behind the universe and the catalyst of evolution.

Science hasn't even come close to disproving a G-d, most scientists at the forefront of physics & cosomology often have a profound spirritual belief (all be it some replace traditional religions with a more complex impersonal spirritualism)... This is because when one truely examines existence one is overwhelmed by what he finds; Einstein puts it better than I ever could:

"Try and penetrate with our limited means the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. "

Where did I say Einsteins G-d was personal?

Einstein

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior Spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. The deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning Power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God. "

"You will hardly find one among the profounder sort of scientific minds without a peculiar religious feeling of his own . . . .His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection. "... btw this is bog standard talmudism

when asked of the G-d of Spinoza:
"I can't answer with a simple yes or no. I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see a universe marvellously arranged and obeying certain laws, but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but admire even more his contributions to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and the body as one, not two separate things."

“I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings.”

"Although I am a typical loner in daily life, my consciousness of belonging to the invisible community of those who strive for truth, beauty, and justice has preserved me from feeling isolated. The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that is there."

"Science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. "

"Einstein used to speak of God so often that I almost looked upon him as a disguised theologian." - Friedrich Dürrenmatt

I can go on forever, there are countless cases where einstein clearly states hge believes in a deity... What he had to say for people like yourself was refreshing:

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human understanding, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."

As for Planck, he was the bloody church warden! He believed in an inpersonal G-d like einstein....

I'll come onto worlds intellects when I get to work I'm too late.

there's only one

Proceation ..............................

the only law of nature is to prolong the species the strong survive the weak don't
the rest is just superficial bullshit made up by man

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errrrrrrrrm i dont get it

explain.

> personal insult against someone
> someones feelings towards a car company about whether they buy from them

cut and dried to me.

yeah, he did

i chose not the act on them because i didn't think they were racist. other mods may think differently.

i'm sure he can live on for a few more days.

if u'd like to check the rules - there's 1 about racism.

thats the laws of the jungle

When I speak of the laws of nature I'm talking of the four laws of thermodynamics, Newton’s law of universal gravitation, Kepler’s three laws of planetary motion, etc.

Why does the universe behave in the way it does, this has nothing to do with species as it predates species and probably brought species into existence....

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its a jew thing

deary me

this thread is tragic


Joe - you really should be putting your time to better use than intentionally getting people to insult you and then flying off the handle at them.

fuck off si, how was I in any shape or form trying to get people to insult me?

I aksed for fucking car advice.

you said the laws of nature not thermonuclearspacebiometricbollox


mate you over complicate things much as your's and all other (nice cover there) religions do

i still dont get and now your saying that your allowed to take the piss out of your religion and fellow jews but we're not ................................hummmmmm


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gander!!


ring any bells

when people talk about the laws of nature they are refering to the universal laws, not the law of the jungle... the law of the jungle are usually called survival of the fittest.

ps. you can't overcomplicate existance.

that video went well over your head.