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  1. Phil Mitchell

    Phil Mitchell check me a dollar brer?

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    James Holden & Nathan Fake use a freeware synth (Buzz) to make some of their best tracks
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    i do 100% agree ....
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  3. Paul_Shepherd85

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    again its wot u pay for that is just a synth
    Paul_Shepherd85, Mar 30, 2008
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  4. chris l

    chris l Jack!

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    Sorry fella, but that is just completely untrue.

    Macs have been pretty much industry standard in recording studios and music production for years because of their stability, whereas PCs used to crash all the time when running music software - this may not be as much the case now though, but generally they're still used.

    There isn't as much snidey software widely available for them, but there's plenty of software out there for them, the developers certainly aren't behind PC developers anyway. ProTools (the industry standard DAW) only became available for PC a few years ago.

    The reason not everything is cross platform is because mac don't really want that. They want you to get used to using mac only software so you won't go back to PC, similar scenario to the whole ipod thing. Which is why when they bought emagic out (the makers of logic), they made it solely mac OS, rather than dual platform, as it always had been up until that point.

    For that quote about Ferry, you could come up with a hundred good producers saying the opposite, or proclaiming the virtues of something nobody has even heard of, it's pointless saying one is better than the other, they all do things slightly differently, so some are better for some people, and even music, than others - loads of people still use trackers on ataris to make tunes, that are generally a lot more complex than a lot of things you hear on cubase, logic or whatever.

    I think the best thing to do is get a program, piece of hardware, whatever it might be, and really learn how to use it, inside out, that's far more important that what you're using.
    chris l, Mar 30, 2008
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  5. Phil Mitchell

    Phil Mitchell check me a dollar brer?

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    And what does a synth do?
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  6. Paul_Shepherd85

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    u still need a sequencer mate to line it all up
    Paul_Shepherd85, Mar 30, 2008
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  7. gazwalgate

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    dont be sorry , i did say i might be wrong :)
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  8. forks

    forks still not dead

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    get a right click mouse like the Belkin one I'm using on this Mac. problem solved.
    forks, Mar 30, 2008
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  9. Gary Proud

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    alternatively hold down the CTRL key on a Mac which is the equivalent of 'Right Click' Lol.
    Gary Proud, Mar 30, 2008
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  10. trance_fan

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    or just buy a fucking windows laptop :p
    trance_fan, Mar 30, 2008
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  11. Lucien Fraud

    Lucien Fraud Got one now havent a

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    windows sucks

    especially vista, it seems to have tried to emulate so much in osx, but you know its an insecure processor hogging os in comparison to leopard.

    macs are the way forward, just give it some time to get used to, its quite different.
    Lucien Fraud, Mar 30, 2008
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  12. Lee

    Lee original gowans artwork

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    dunno why people bother with macs, theyre more expensive and have less compatibility. id rather have a good toshiba
    Lee, Mar 30, 2008
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  13. Paul_Shepherd85

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    haha nice one
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  14. trance_fan

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    yadda yadda. shile of pite. But I suppose you are entitled to your opinion, however flawed/based on internet regurgitation it may be.

    But this is a pointless debate, and isn't helping the OP, so might aswell just leave it at that eh.
    trance_fan, Mar 30, 2008
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  15. Lucien Fraud

    Lucien Fraud Got one now havent a

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    who said its internet regurgitation?

    learned from experience mate, had my MBP for 3 months now just gettin used to it thank you very much.

    and my opinion on windows would stand if i didnt have a mac, it comes from the secure nature of osx.

    that alright with you son?
    Lucien Fraud, Mar 30, 2008
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  16. Conway

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    mac OS and the software that runs on is just as insecure as PC operating systems.

    There was a hackathon contest in the US last week, where they had three laptops (one running mac OS, one with vista and one with linux) as prizes. To win it you had to successfully hack into the machine and take control of it.

    Guess which one fell over first? Hmmm that would be the mac ;)

    Anyway, I digress....

    chris l's post is completely spot on. MACs have a well-deserved reputation past and present as stable machines, and as a result are used widely in publishing (music, video and graphics). PCs as of Windows XP are usually stable enough to carry out the same kind of work.

    There's a wide range of software out for both PC and MAC, with some packages available on both.

    If you can, get some demos of these bits of software and have a play, see which ones you like. Having a MAC, you're in the unique position of being able to boot your MAC into XP via boot camp, so don't be afraid to have a play with the windows based tools as well.

    Different people prefer different programs, the right combination is the one you find easiest to use.

    If you get stuck with any piece of software, try searching for help for it on google (try "howto program name"). Chances are that someone else has got stuck on exactly the same thing before and been able to fix it, and they've posted how to do it on the net.
    Conway, Mar 30, 2008
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  17. Lucien Fraud

    Lucien Fraud Got one now havent a

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    i wasnt aware of that.

    just i was dicussing with my uncle (who funnily enough is a graphic designer) before deciding to get a mac about viruses spyware etc and he was saying it was uncommon, i probably used the word secure in the wrong context if thats the case.
    Lucien Fraud, Mar 30, 2008
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  18. Conway

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    I've seen more and more malware recently coming out of the woodwork for macs. The main saving grace for macs with spyware is that

    a) it's easier to write it under windows

    b) it's easier and a better use of time to attack windows PCs because there are more of them.

    Thats changing - recently there has been a massive surge in the number of people who own a mac, and malware writers are now targeting the platform with the same filth that runs on PCs. Even worse is that it's catching a lot of MAC owners out because they think they can't get viruses/malware etc.

    Whats more common now as well is people exploiting and hacking the software running on top of the operating systems, a recent example being quicktime. Recently it was found it had a security hole that could allow a computer to be compromised... this hole existed on the Windows, MAC, and Linux variants of the quicktime software and codecs. So it didn't matter which operating system you were running, you could still get hacked. It's common for viruses, worms and hackers to target applications now rather than operating systems, and seems to yield the same results.
    Conway, Mar 30, 2008
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  19. Lucien Fraud

    Lucien Fraud Got one now havent a

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    are there aqny sites to keep up to date with info like that?
    Lucien Fraud, Mar 30, 2008
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  20. Earl Grey

    Earl Grey time for tea

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    just a hijack here but any1 wonting a mac by the way i have 2 for sale in the sale section

    a 12inch macbook g4 and a 15.4 inch macbookpro intel (worth 1300ish,will take 1000,unopened,brand new)
    Earl Grey, Mar 31, 2008
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