Man-made global warming.... biggest myth of this century

the whole factor in any of these matters is just 1 thing and 1 thing only that nobody ever brings to the point !!

WE ARE OVER POPULATED !!!!

we need to seriously stop reproduction in the world for some time,less people =
less fuel used
less cars needed
less animal produced foods/less animals
less paper/furniture/crops/coal/wood/plastics/rubbers/and all plant made materials
less pollution full stop

Re: Re: Re: Re: Man-made global warming.... biggest myth of this century

That's a nice theory but it isn't reflected in the graph, we see slight fluctuations of fuel consumption on two occassions between the timespan in question... while the tamprature appears to plumit in an unconnected manner.

A more insightful graph would be:


In which solar energy is alligned with global temprature and suprise suprise.... The sun which heats the earth is in unity with the temprature rises and decreeses

If you're main gripe is that the thing's done in Paint and posted on Nucastle then you're talking out your arse.

I'd say both temp anomaly/time and fuel consumnption/time have roughly the same correlation coefficient. Using a fitted line is pretty common to check correlation. Not the most accurate admittedly, but I was just showing there is some correlation.

As you've already said though, doesn't necessarily mean the two are associated.

When carbon dioxide takes up 0.052% of the earths atmosphere and humans only produce 1% of that 0.052% I'd say its HIGHLY unlikely

you trust those that are paid millions to provide you with an answer that would lead to the end of their employment?

nice one....

And what about the cattle ranches for beef? It takes more land to produce meat than it takes to produce the equivalent amount of vegetables.

Which was my point - even the renewables we are using aren't environmentally friendly and need to be rethought.

aren't half those experts politicians?

andy I'm asking you a basic question, why do you blame global temprature rises on fuel consumption when there appears to be no real correlation between fuel consumption and temprature rises, while there seems to be a strong correlation between solar energy....

are you seriously telling me i should trust polliticians to tell me whether or not CO2 is causing our current temprature rise.... wtf do politicians know of climatology?

The IPCC is a heavily funded political movement, it is not a credible scientific body...

I'll over simplify it even further, on all the other times the earth has left an ice age.... what caused the carbon dioxide levels to rise?

Infact what caused the earths temprature to fluctuate....

We're not experiencing anything new and our carbon emissions account for 1% of all the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere... So my next question is - did man end all the other ice ages?

The entire document is flawed andy... theres no correlation between the two.

I'm astounded you have so much faith in politicians.... scores of independent scientists are in disagreement, scores have also left the lobby (yet their names are still cited by the IPCC).

Its a nonsensical political movement spawned by thatcher.

Joe - Forgetting global warming, what about scarcity of resources? We will run out of them very soon if we keep going as we are!

andy if something triggers a rise in temprature what releases more CO2 man or the oceans.... man = 1% the oceans = 70%.

Lets add that the oceans can be releasing CO2 from triggers centuries old.

So if CO2 is responsible for the rise in temprature (which it isn't) a trigger 200 years ago would cause the rise which would trigger the oceans to release CO2 on levels that man could never match, meaning:

mans influence on the carbon levels would be virtually unnoticable.

if we run out of fossil fuels we run out of fossil fuels... it doesnt spell the end of man kind

I'm all for exploring alternative energy sources.

Read former contributors like Chris Landsea.. they give better cirticism than my 5 minutes on google ever will.

Joe the oceans have been releasing CO2 as part of the carbon cycle for millenia. They aren't the problem. It's our output that's upsetting the balance and causing the problem.

There are arguments for and against whether mankind's emissions of CO2 are responsible for global warming. However, even if it is questionable we should do something about it. Better safe than sorry.

you missunderstood what I said, as the temprature rises (caused by a non CO2 trigger) then oceans heat up - as they heat up they produce more CO2 than usual.... An amount vastly greater than man.

The argument that mans influence adds to it would only bear true if we were experience a rapid warming unknown to our climate... we're not - there is nothing unique about the current warming pattern its happened xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx times in the past.

CO2 levels rise as the sea's warm up, if this did effect the atmosphere surely our planet would of came to an end by now as there have been times when theres beeen vastly larger quantities of CO2 in the atmosphere.... yet the earth didn't come to an end it cooled down.

CO2 is not the cause.... tis a consequence and we don't know if it has any effect.