Lost.........................

Naff all to do with ViM/Telewest, it's Sky that ripping everyone off.

The Branson/murdoch war is on, and sky know that VM is a serious threat to them now. Sky wanted to charge an extra 3p per VM customer per day. That might not seem much for the channels that they have took off, but do your sums on how many cable customers their is and it will come to £36million pound a year.Also that 3p per customer per day was what they brought it down to, so it was obviously more than that to start off with.

That would be harsh on passing this onto the customers.

Virgin has the upper hand anyway.They have the Video on demand that sky doesnt have, and wont have. Yes Sky has a fancy Sky+ box, but work out the charges that you pay the privilege of owning one of these boxes.

Then theres the Cable internet which kicks ass compared to ADSL.If you want to go with Sky you have to put up with a new system and bad tech support, along with having a BT line installed in your home for something like £100, top it off by paying BT a line rental and then Sky an additional charge for your Broadband that is run on pre-historic Bt copper cables that were only meant to be for Telephone conversations, not High speed internet.

Iam with Virgin all the way, Sky can suck my balls.

Look at the adds below.Says it all.Sky think they will get loads of new customers just because they have dropped Sky channels.

but that what if you want sky1? Loads of people only pay for sky for the channels and get their broadband elsewhere. Same for telewest customers.

What you going to miss on sky one? The simpsons, lost, 24, all of which you and i will download if need be...I really dont think people are going to change provider. It really isnt the hassle, letting an engineer into your home while you book a day off work to let him come and take your cable box away..Fart on phoning sky booking another day off work, having another engineer come into your house to put up a sky dish..Sky are not going to win in this race!!

Is all of the above really necessary just so you can still watch one two or three shows. If people are that bothered about the three main shows, they will wait and buy the DVD instead of going through all that shit.

Go branson fuck Murdoch

The only thing i will be missing is Sky sports news for the footy, but hey, i can get the scores somewhere else.

Some pics below of what i took yesterday.Virgin having a good sniggle at Sky. First one is Sky sports news, second one is Sky news

hmm.. I'm not quite sure what the deal is with installations etc but it's not really a massive deal. Some people can't get cable in their area, others already have sky and are happy with it like me and see no reason to change over to virgin. You're quite wrong in assuming the majority of people will be downloading shows instead of watching them on sky 1.

Millions of people dont know about bein able to download shows never mind knowing how to download them. Poor fuckers

and even if they did there'd still be tons who'd prefer to sit infront of their tv at the same time each week with their gf or whatever instead of watching it on a pc, or having to convert it to dvd.

The point i was making was that people are not going to switch providers for the sake of one channel, Did people only get sky installed to watch lost on sky one when they nabbed it off channel 4? NO

Sky One is not on Freeview.....

somewhat of a biased view there i see Both are blaming eachother - Sky deny this 3p business.

As for Sky+ - what are theses costs you mention? There is a one off charge for the box....that's it.

As for their internet service, you can't blame Sky for the age of copper cables, nor can you use that against them. Yes, granted, they were installed for voice but it handles internet just fine.....and how many people do you know that don't have a BT line?! Sky also offer a free broadband service for lighter users.

The only real benefit of Cable over ADSL is that it is not susceptible to the attenuation that is inherent in ADSL. If you live within a reasonable distance from the exchange then the difference will be negligible. I have a 6mbit connection on ADSL which has increased from 512k over the last few years - and they arn't done yet.

Oh and Cable/Virgin Media is not even accessible to all so I cant see how they can possibly "win" this "race"

Sky are now also offering TV/Phone/Broadband for £26 a month which is pretty good IMO.

Next argument?

(and dont dare say the rain knocks out your sky, i've had it nearly 2 years and only once have i lost signal, for about 1 minute, during a fairly terrific thunderstorm)

Ha ha, nice reply until you put a childish image at the bottom.Nice to see people contributing to a board that makes it look childish.

I'm glad someone is giving another opinion, this is how good threads start, but you've just killed it with your 'OWNED' image.

tv provider turf wars? now i've seen everything!

the whole thing seems a bit like a PR stunt which the virgin brand love so much...

You posted the first childish pics really. It wouldn't have been so childish if it wasn't following on your worship of virgin

exactly, and at least i didn't actually take the pic myself

that aside, i'm keen to hear your next argument!

The defense rests...for now.

I dont actually worship Virgin. I do like sky to some extent. I like their menu's. I like their software in their boxes and i like how stylish their boxes are.

Please explain how i posted posted childish pics, i posted pics that Sky have been advertising on other sites in banners. I also posted pictures i took off the cable box.These are called facts dude.

aye no contest for me, I cant get virgin so ill have to stick with sky n bt if I like it or not. I was thinking of getting the sky freeview card tho as I hardly watch tv these days. Ill have to download lost n prison break too if I do.

forget about the pictures and press on with your case

Do what my mate did..

He rang em up and says he watches Lost and 24 all the time, and hes thinking of cancelling with virgin, he pays for a shit package with no extra channels...

they said he could have full package, exc sports and movies... a new v+box for free for 7month. then 10 quid after that.

Deal

I fail to see any sort of fact in your first set of pics other than Sky 1 bein unavailable. In which case "ooohh errr"

Thats it? £300 for a box that costs peanuts thru virgin? and if owt goes wrong with sky u have to pay for repairs or shell out another£300 on a new box!!

u still have to pay £11 for a bt line on top, so thats £37. same 3 services at better bbi speeds etc thru virgin is £30!

when u corner a cat and scare it they'll come out fighting dirty and scratchin, thats exactly what sky are doin. Virgin's got them scared.

Sky customer services were tellin people that virgin was gonna lose sky 1 nearly a month ago before the negotiations started, how the hell did they know that if they ever intended to come to an agreement with virgin?