Maybe Sayid felt the same, and was happier to shoot Ben's tits off and give him a grave stone with something nice written on it, as opposed to "Horrible pedo-faced cunt"
it's the whole nature/nurture thing - are we BORN that way, predestined to turn out a certain way no matter what happens OR is it our experiences in early life that mold us
Defo the latter. The people, places and experiences mold us throughout all of our life. That scene where Sayid kills the chicken for the other kid makes it seem like the former though-no emotions inhim is there?
How good was sunday's ep!! So Charles was the leader of the others and Ellie! but if ellie was a leader how come she was helping ben and not working for widmore when he was getting the others back to the island? i also think widmore is faraday's dad!! wonder what happens to Ben in the black rock!
So basically by taking little Ben to Alpert (the hostiles/others) Kate and Sawyer actually turned Ben into the freakin nutcase he was in present day, as they would take his innocence away. Scenes with Hurley and Miles were also class. Got to admit I'm with Hurley, have not got a scooby as to what's going on!!!
FUCKING HELL! EPISODE 12! has to be one of my favourite lost episodes so far like, had the 'omg' factor running right through it! fucking shitloads revealed! ***SPOILERS**** I can't believe the smoke monster is a relatively ancient creation, and one of the more important parts of the islands workings! What the fuck's richards crack? i can't really recall his story ever being mentioned... not to mention that he still hasnt aged ONE bit, and no one's taken the piss that he wears eye make up. Ben's a tosser - will he fuck listen to alex's mad re-incarnation.... Locke... wtf.. i think it's a bit TOO far fetched that he's still alive - although it still hasnt been explained, i think it's a bit offside bringing main characters/plot anchors back from the dead with the only explanation being 'oh yeah... the island did it' which has been the paramount excuse for totally unexplainable mad shit that goes on. however this series has been bang on so far like (glad the boards back up for me to vent that )
i think MOS ( i think it was you) is right about Ben maybe actually being a good guy. The smoke monster is Jacob - thats what i reckon anyway! it isnt far fetched Locke being alive, as most of the losties have seen christian and he was dead when on the plane too Ben does have a heart, you could see that when he stole the baby from danielle, they also stole ethan from darma too.
right, had on. just because christian came back to life - this automatically justifies bringing people back from the dead?! gerraway! however that just solidifies the conditions of them coming back to the island christian and locke both being dead - being eerily brought back to life?! pppfft. And, regardless of whats happend, i dont think ben is completely evil - but he is the least trustable person on the show - he might have a heart but he only seems to want to justify things for himself and 'the island' not others/everyone else. loved the flashbacks with widmore in them, makes me realise that he seems to be hard done by - even though he broke the forbidden 'rule' explaining penelope can't wait for tonights episode like
Did anyone notice that Locke disappeared twice when Ben was busy with ol' smokey? Once when he went to summon it Locke disappeared into the trees and when Ben fell down that hole Locke disappeared again to 'find something to haul him back up with'. Probably nothing like....
another MINT episode! there goes my theory of not being able to see themselves lol when they are younger! how funny is hurley wanting to re-write star wars
ive eventuly given in and started watching lost. just finished series 2 and demand this thread gets deleted as im going to end up reading it and spoiling all the rest of the series..... anyone know where you can watch them online?