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  1. Sweeney

    Sweeney Registered User

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    Ditto
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  2. Phil Mitchell

    Phil Mitchell check me a dollar brer?

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    Lib Dems have absolutely no chance of ever coming to power

    They're a waste of space
    Phil Mitchell, Aug 23, 2006
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  3. forks

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    oh well thats it then I'll just vote Tory
    forks, Aug 23, 2006
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  4. psycaholic

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: are you taking the piss there or what 'd say a good % of them a blagging the fuckin system and you know it !
    psycaholic, Aug 24, 2006
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  5. psycaholic

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    :lol: :lol: fuckin hell BenC's back :wink:
    psycaholic, Aug 24, 2006
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  6. BRID

    BRID Has name in red. Staff

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    Eh?
    BRID, Aug 24, 2006
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  7. psycaholic

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    40-50% tax rate means you must be in the top band of earners !!! was a gag mate dont wory bout it :wink:
    psycaholic, Aug 24, 2006
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  8. BRID

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    40% tax rate aint that difficult to be in .... if you earn more than about 30 grand a year you can look forward to that.

    Once you figure in National insurance - the government is making off with half your earnings after tax.
    BRID, Aug 24, 2006
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  9. psycaholic

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    fuckin hell is that all i thought it was for mega buck's and his crew to pay that much take a pay cut dude yu might come out with more dollar
    psycaholic, Aug 24, 2006
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  10. B.O.B.

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    That's not how it works. Only whatever you earn over each bracket gets taxed at the higher rate.
    B.O.B., Aug 24, 2006
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  11. Alexander

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    does it, fucking hell, thats a pretty complicated way of doing it how many brackets are there?
    Alexander, Aug 24, 2006
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  12. French William

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    :lol:
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  13. B.O.B.

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    Starting rate of 10% for earnings up to £2150
    Basic rate of 22% for earnings between £2150 and £33300
    Higher rate of 40% for earnings over £33300

    Not forgetting the personal allowance of £5035.

    Simple really.
    B.O.B., Aug 24, 2006
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  14. BRID

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    Another thing that Gordon brown has done is make people pay more tax by not moving the tax bands up with earnings and inflation.

    To look at it very simply - even though earnings might have went from 18k average to 25k average ... the tax bands havent. So your paying more tax proportionately than you did before, even though you arent actually making any more money (apart from inflation).



    I tell you ... back in the 70's and 80's ... the average man could bring up a family and buy a house on one salary. Is it fair that we cant do that now?

    Funnily enough - my dad argued with me last week that maybe its an unfair expectation that people of my generation should want that too - and that we should basically 'put up' with the fact nobody can afford a home or a family like they could 10-20 years ago .....

    ... Easy enough for him to say eh - with a 3 bedroom house in a nice area and a tiny mortgage.

    People think that because they can afford an Ipod, a mobile phone and a few nights out a week than that means they have some kind of meaningful existance. No way. Im sure at the back of alot of peoples minds they are wondering when they will actually get a chance to move on and do something meaningful with their lives and not just live from week to week, paycheque to paycheque ......


    ....... What a rant ;)
    BRID, Aug 24, 2006
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  15. B.O.B.

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    True, but expectations and standards of living were lower. Now people want flash cars, expensive holidays, plasma tvs etc, and a lot of them are more likely to get these before they bother saving up for a house etc. Yes, house prices have gone up compared to salaries, but there's a lot more that needs to be taken into account too.
    B.O.B., Aug 24, 2006
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  16. NorthernOUFC

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    Would those be the same 70's and 80's we had a superb NHS, education system, transport links, social cohesion etc? And the same 70's and 80's that provided us with a government which ran down said public services to the extent that only in recent years have they have recovered to an acceptable level?

    :wink:
    NorthernOUFC, Aug 24, 2006
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  17. forks

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    GDP per head has doubled since 1970. So we should all be twice as rich as then.
    But top rate tax take in 1970 was a massive 99% and everyone paid a higher share of their wages in taxes than we do now.
    what has changed is that everyone has bought the thatcher agenda that greed is good and there is no such thing as society.
    everyone talks about the government 'spending my money' rather than we as a society clubbing together to pay for health care, railways etc.
    We all have far more money to spend than people in the seventies but we chose to spend it on holidays cars and other stuff for us personally rather than the collective good.

    and rich people don't pay tax at all now. they get to avoid it

    and all the companies who used to be based in the uk and pay taxes here have all been bought by foreigners who take the profits back to their own countries
    forks, Aug 24, 2006
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