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me 2, but because i'm not massive and hard i dont know what i'm talking about

Well while you spent 5 years studying it and writing a book, alot of people tried 5 years of going to the gym and actually seeing what works for them.

I really don't see what the arguments over? there are alot of stuff in the supplement world which al does different stuff, how can you argue with someones personal view over what works better for them compared to other stuff? it's like me telling you what sort of music you like or what you prefer to eat.

i did, i also work in a gym

No need to get all bitchy about it - you sure it's not roids you're taking?

OK, so basically you've been told by Bob at the gym that you should neck loads of supplements and lift massive weights then one day you could have arms as big as his, so you're not even willing to entertain the notion that science might prove otherwise.

Keep doing what you're doing if you're enjoying it mate, that's the main thing. I was just offering an opinion on a subject I happen to know quite a bit about thanks to my wasted years at uni.

i'm not arguing, i'm just putting my educated and professional views across

just like 'massive dave the meat head' put his view across to you

lol sorry didnt mean to sound bitchy, and i can't get huge due to weight classes in fighting and my lack of height lol all i meant was i do the stuff i do because it's helped me dramatically since i started.

he'd prob have a shit technique as well, so i'd correct that while i was on

Funny thing is though massive Dave the meat head is probably massive dave the meat head because of what he's done lol

But infact i didn't listen to massive dave (nice as he is), i listen to people who do personal training, compete as athletes who like to give advice, even then i try stuff on my own to see what works for me.

Are you just in this thread to stir it up a bit?

Technically speaking he won't, cos it all depends on genetic factors as well. Not everyone can be as big as Giant Haystacks.

I know, i'd never be hugely built and don't want to be, i just like doing what i do

'Massive Dave' is probably just the type of person who gets massive easier, due to gentics.

In all honesty this isn't fair on all the massive Dave's of the world, cos some of them do know what they're talking about. It's just the majority who give out bad advice that you want to avoid cos you'll end up with severe back pain and a deformed body when you're older. But at least you'll look well hard in the mean time.

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