FAO Tory Boy (a.k.a Jambon)

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  1. TheSpence

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    Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results.
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    it's the ppl who live in 'richer' societies that appear to be the greediest....

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    If greed isnt in our human nature - then how did we arrive at where we are right now then.... greed and corruption ruling the entire world while half the people in this world dont get a decent meal each day?

    Where we are right NOW is a product of human nature, what else could it be? (no matrix theories please)
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    Somebody left there lunchbox at the last Promise it was a guy with earmuffs

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  5. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    How is that a result of human nature, its a result of evironment, rich kings fighting imperal wars intellectual geniuses battling to build the fastest railway lines... The conditions that created this comeptitiveness are all down to envirnoment and not human nature.

    Every human has the capacity for greed - but not every human is greedy.
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    give them the option...

    self-determinism :king:
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    and what options do you have in britain... You can vote in one of 3 parties you don't trust - whats democratic about that?
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    Can you not vote for this lot www.communist-party.org.uk?
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    capitalism is here to stay for our lifetimes and for generations to come.

    by not embracing it, you also chose not to fight it, as without power and resources your voice will never be heard.

    the sad & scary facts are that the capitalist west has become so powerful it can actually decide with almost freewill to remove governments around the world who's policies they do not agree with.

    the basics of capitalism mean their power is not likely to ever diminish as the rich get richer etc.. with this in mind it is foolish to ever think capitalism will fail/fall, instead we should be working towards more social reforms and a more tolerant & liberal society.
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    But capitalism has already undergone the first stages of change. Minimum wage, state run companies, unions, etc. All products of left wing thinking having absoloutely fuck all to do with capitalism (they go against its very existance).

    And its my belief that it is these subtle changes that will bring about the fall of capitalism, the proletariat wont unite and over throw the bourgeois.... It will be a gradual progression, but just because it is gradual it does not mean it will still be capitalism.

    Capitalism wont last forever and we're already seeing the changes.
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    I'm nto a commie...

    and no you can't you can vote for tories or labour... no one else has a chance.

    Theres nothing democratic about voting for one of two companies you'd hate to see in power.
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    Who are making these changes is it Jambons NEW LABOUR LOT?

    Are NEW LABOUR putting in place things that go against the very existence of capitalism?
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    You have dumped the Lib Dems in about 2 posts.
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    Not at all, NL would privatise the the armed forces given the opertunity.

    This is the product of old labour, the people of britain and left wing thinking it has fuck all to do with new labour, new labour? theres nothing new about old right wing conservative thinking.
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    Realised it was being daft even considering them as an alternative... I want my arguements to be credible and realistic not fantasy :p
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    Minimum wage was deffo put in place by NEW LABOUR people
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    One of the reasons NL came to power was through promises of mimimum wage (and old labour thinking) - they promised a revolution and brought us war :p
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    min wage is a pointless joke.
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    how?

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