Ecstasy to be downgraded....?

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  1. james909

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    Safrole was why they were so expensive and much more loved up.

    Mdma stays in your system for 48 hours or so thats a fact not the high but the after effects why do you think you have moody tuesdays as your brain gets itself back togeather as the chemical leaves your body.

    Mitizi were a used a chemical version of safrole that was great as well but not as warm or loved up as the original pills.

    The message board blue light has a guy who used take the original 1984-86 legal dallas group pills taking about this here is the link. Loads of interesting info.

    This is a seriously nerdy drugs forum.

    www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=178627

    Not that i take drugs of course.
  2. ManofScience

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    lets cut to the chase - anyone get any decent pills at the moment?
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    The Morrocans in Byker can as well.
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    Because there is no more Serotonin to hold inside the synapses. After a while it is broken down and your levels lower. Which is another reason why it can't last 3 days.

    That bluelight post doesn't say anything about this safrole theory... can't be arsed to look through 21 pages. Cheers for the website though, never seen it before. Quite informative. Feel you could learn quite a lot from it.

    Sorry James/Melt, MDMA in your brain has a shelf life and it's a lot shorter than 72 hours. Why not put a post on that forum and ask.
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    Rossy = Drug Dictionary :king:

    MDMA can't have changed, isnt it a chemical compound? :spangled:
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    Innit. and Safrole isn't a 72 hour long lasting stimulant. If it was that would mean MDMA in the 90s was contaminated.
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    **** can't.
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    with nostalgia by the sounds of things :rolleyes:
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    I quite liked that. :D
  11. Dan

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    Theres still good pills floating around.

    I had 2 rockets the other month and i was off my pickle. My jaw was aching the next day and it felt like someone had slashed the insides of my gums to bits the morning after.

    They were stonger than a lot of pills i used to take years ago. More of those please!
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    it doesn't matter what precursor is used, the end result is either MDMA or it's not. There aren't different varieties of it. It's a chemical.
    However, alcohol is a chemical but no one would doubt that there are different results from different drinks even when they have the same amount of alcohol in them.
    This must be due to what the alcohol is mixed with. Maybe the old pills were mixed with other stuff?

    I tend to think that you just develop a tolerance for them since everyone's experience seems to be a similar one of 'they not as good as they was when I first had them' regardless of when you first did them.
    Perhaps the whole vibe around the early days was a lot better and you could share the high with all around you and the honeymoon was being experienced by all at the same time making the experience so much richer.
    *my friends* first was in 1999 and one pill lasted him all night, he danced like a loon and loved everyone and was going for 12 hours. It has slowly got less and less than that with more stuff over time.
    Is it him or is it the pills?
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    Yeah I could imagine being out in a field with the sun coming up and big crowds of people being loved up together for the first times in history having a drastic effect on the experience compared to a dark sweaty club. That's why I think I'll be doing more in a similar vein this year.

    With regards to the drugs advisory council - consisting of actual experts on the subject, people who actually have any idea on the actual neurological effects of these drugs recommending the downgrading.

    Then being over-ruled by a bunch of know nothing toffs who shout and jeer like fucking dicks in parliament and don't actually have any idea about the effects of drugs.

    Well it speaks for itself. . Advise us when it suits us, unless it jeopardizes votes. Fucking puritans.
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    I heard the reports today on Government Radio1, and got a bit annoyed after hearing about 4-5 soundbites of daily mail readers going "it's dangerous! and proven to damage people and society! scoff scoff scoff" and words to that effect - i'd love to see that middle class, middle age biddy when i'm on a all day drinking binge and stott an empty bottle of smartprice vodka right off her head, and then collapse with liver failure.

    why do the masses fail to recognise that the age old tax dolla drug's, alcohol and tabacco, are killing FUCKING THOUSANDS a year - yet they arent even within the classification boundries? why can't people realise this? fucking idiots.

    i love cowies.
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    still tho - even if it was de-classified to class B it wouldent really make that much of a difference tbh.
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    The government will not let this go through, the advisory council have been on this for a while now and they respond with propaganda to keep the tabloids at bay.

    How anyone can advocate the drugs war when you look at this bigger picture is beyond me.
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    they're doing LSD next. jesus
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    that's what the prof said when they asked him what their next report was
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    I never said that pills lasted 72 hours. Thats was melt. I said that the effects and after effects last longer than 48 hours.

    The safrole theory relates to the quality of precursers which is talked about in the blue light thread. Not that it made the drug last longer the fact it made it better more loved up and rushy.

    There is alot to go though but it explains why mdma was cleaner and better in the day. By that i mean 1986 -when it was legal though to the early days up to 1992.

    There is a reason pills are 60p now and £20 in 1987.

    Read Blue light you can learn alot alternatively you can listern to your local waxa dealer about why 60p cowies are just as good as 1992 Double Doves.

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