Dawkins getting slaughtered

Thats like saying weapons have played a part in it.

Of course religion has played a part, it has been a weilded as weapon... Howevr it was not the influencing factor in the conflict - the struggles are geographical ones fought over borders drawn by men.

I reckon we should call this a day, as you're not going to udnerstand the complexity of the middle east until you read a few books - you certainly wont learn anything from me

I wonder if Rosa Luxembourg believed that man was inherently evil and needed religion to control him get your brain in gear before you spout such rubbish

well thats a fact. I'll leave you to continue your in depth insights into the 'middle eastern mindset'
which you consider the cause of it all.
racist.

Rosa Luxemburg was Jewish, her religion may of played little part in her life; but it scultped her mindset and she still held onto some of her beliefs... she was opposed to organised religion (especially the church).

I'm of the middle eatsern mindset you tool.

am I racist against myself?

retarded argument, japanese have me killing themselves for years.

You also overlook the fact pre-Hamas the palestinian "liberation" movement was secular... the PLO wasn't islamic

Trotski Marx and Luxembourg were Jewish and so my point about religion being inherently right wing is false you say. And in the next breath you are admitting that they were non religious ( I would say anti-religious)

Stick to the Torah mate. You can make that say anything you want it to.

where in the israeli constitution, decleration of independence or UN resolutions foes it mention biblical scruptire?

love to see this

well it doesn't. but you must know you are being disingenuous by pretending that the scriptures have nothing to do with the fact that there is a jewish state in Israel. The reason there is no mention of the scriptures in the israeli constitution and declaration of independence, as I'm sure a great scholar of history such as yourself will know is that the tensions in the Jewish community between the secularists and the religious were unable to be resolved in any form of words that was acceptable to both sides. so they simply left it out. doesn't mean that it wasn't there.

And I don't think think that the UN goes in for scriptural references either.

lol this simply isn't true, the religious jews were against the creation of Israel as it goes against our scripture....

The re-establishment of Israel has nothing to do with scipture, there is a clearly document and preserved history of the Jews living in Israel up to its re-establishment.... this has nothing to do with our scripture.

so god said 'you know the promised land? well don't go there.

Its like dumb and dumber... what does the teachings of the bible have to do with the establishment of Israel.... Judaism clearly stated we cannot control Israel until the Moshiach came, 80% of religious jewry was against the re-establishment.... it was founded by athiests.

religion played little part in the re-birth of israel.

and dumberer.