Dawkins getting slaughtered

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  1. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    example:

    Jimi starts ranting about how the jews run the world.
    Nezza listens and thinks crikey Jimi's right, I'm going to put a brick through Joes skull.

    Jimi has directly influenced someone into acting in a neggative way.... haven't you heard of the inciting race hate laws?
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    this is why you're fanatical andy... you're trying to convert others to your way of thinking.

    despite the fact you can't substantiate your own beliefs.

    why is it irrational or rational, all explanations of the origins of the universe are a probable as each other at this stage of mans history.
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    thats not what dawkins says at all, he clearly states that he believes the probability of a G-d creating to the universe to be less likely than the probability of something simple causing it to come into existence.

    the two are completely seperate and if you don't understand the difference then you really shouldn't be passing comment.
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    I will stop believing in my G-d if you can prove that he didn't create existence.
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    where have I said hashem was highly complex?

    but what do my beliefs have to do with what dawkins says? :lol:
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    ITS NOT A FUCKING SCIENTIFIC DISCUSSION!

    Religions hold their hand up and say they are faith, it is dawkins that has made it a scientific discussion, if you are to state that science makes it probable that a G-d did not create existence then it is your duty to provide the evidence.

    Dawkins has no evidence, thus he has no right to say that a G-d did not create the universe... his current belief is a faith based belief, thats the hypocrisy :D
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    Who the fuck are you to tell me what i can and can't teach my children?

    prick.

    I am not telling Dawkin his view is wrong, nor is any rabbi (even Rabbi Gluck who featured in his documentary)... We're simply stating this is our belief let us fucking think what we want.

    And if you are adament on shattering our belief spectrum, then at least have the courtesy to provide us with some fucking evidence... rather than a hunch.

    fucking hypocrit.
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    What are you gibbering on about of course religion explains the origin of existence, thats its fucking purpose!

    As for morality, that's a joke; Science does not provide mankind with moral values, science explains how thinks work. Scientists are forever creating incredible advancements that can either enrich or destroy lives... It is then up to mankind to then use these disocveries morally.

    Traditionally man has turned to religion for these values, as if you subscribe to a true darwinian mindset there is no such thing as free will or accountability as we are all envirnoment driven.

    On a side note in the last 200 years far more people have died in the name of science and athieism than religion. Fact.
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    far more people have died in the past 200 years in the name of nationalism than in the name of either science or religion. fact.

    and Dawkins wasn't thrown to the lions the (pagan) romans did that to the christians in the name of religion. fact.

    and there is a god. not fact
    and there is no god. not fact

    and arguing about it won't make one appear (or disappear) fact

    and none of it matters until someone starts trying to tell someone else how to live their life based on 'faith'
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    This isnt the News section lads, are you's trying to take over the whole forum, section at a time? :lol:
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    Would you be comfortable with teaching a child a religion as fact? I don't think I would be happy to tell a child that any religion or faith was right or wrong.
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    Satan is a pussy to be fair.
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    You seem unable to think in an unscientific mode, faith is not a question of science... Why do you continuelyl confuse the two?

    No scientist can prove or disprove G-d... Just as no religious man can prove or disprove G-d....why must you repeatedly go over the same ground?

    you asking me to scientifically prove G-d exists is as idiotic as me asking you to scientifically prove he doesn't.
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    Dawkins being a prime example.

    In the last 200 years communists in Russia and China killed more people because they held religious beliefs than the other way around.
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    No jewish child is tought that religion is fact, in jewish faith schools we are taught everything from evolution to genesis (bereishis)... the child then forms his own opinion.

    But the child is taught that these are his parents beliefs.... just as you were taught your parents beliefs at your school.
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    which 10 people does satan kill in the torah?
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    No, please, do not mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which never will. Passion for passion, an evangelical Christian and I may be evenly matched. But we are not equally fundamentalist. The true scientist, however passionately he may “believe”, in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence! The fundamentalist knows that nothing will. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    He just makes up definitions!

    If Osama Bin laden changes his mind does he stop being a fundamentalist? dawkins is a crackpot.
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    What are my parents beliefs that I was taught?

    We had very little RE in any school I attended beyond signing Christian hymns up to the age of 12 and being a shepherd in the nativity when I was about 6. It would have been stupid for the comp I attended to teach any single religion as a main focus because the kids were far too diverse in faith and origin. We were more likely to be discussing the probability of Jesus being black than the if he was the son of God in RE.

    Unless the belief you refer to is science? In which case it's a fair cop because they drilled it into my head. :p
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    I was asking you what your opinion is, not what your culture dictates.

    I hope the two are not inseparable.
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    if bin laden were to change his mind he would most certainly stop being a fundamentalist. The defining carachteristic of a fundamentalist is a set of unchangeable beliefs to which (s)he is utterly committed. By definition they have no doubts.

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