Dawkins getting slaughtered

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  1. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    He wasn't presenting an argument of faith! He was demonstrating that because Dawkins had nothing to base his opinion on he was a schmuck for dismissing other theories.

    Thats because you subscribe to the laws of probibility which exist within this universe; you move outside of this universe and the laws of probability are no longer valid....

    get it yet?

    You're a fanatic mate, my religion effects no one - Jimi's right wing views directly effect me.

    The Irish guy isn't evanglisizing his religion, but dawkins is evanglisizing his faith.... He is attempting to convert people away from their beliefs and to follow his faith - just as you do with me.

    My religion prohibits me from converting and preaching - so to suggest I do this is insanity... I don't want you to become jewish, I don't want you to believe what i believe... I just wish you'd stop being such an ignorant putz.
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    I haven't dismissed it?

    Do you understand how probability works andy?
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    I can't watch the video cos streaming is blocked at work, but that arguement, and the flying spaghetti monster one, is just infantile.
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    I believe that my faith provides me with scriptural documentation of how the universe came into existence.

    However, scientifically speaking there is as much evidence of the universe coming into existence through the flying spagetti monster, yellow lobster or big bang.... as the probability of this space-time-continuum does not exist outside our universe; probability may not even exist outside of this universe :lol:

    get it yet?
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    Surely an action is required to effect something?

    A view or belief is not an action so I don't see how his 'views' can directly effect you.

    Are you are talking about his actions?
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    It adds nothing to any debate, and has the sole intention of mocking religion/faith.
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    The verbalisation of a belief influences others, Hitler didn't persdonally murder 6 million jews - but he is held accountable as it is through his teaching and his instruction that 6 million perished.

    Jimi's view directly effect me.

    My religion effects no one.
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    Maybe your practicing of it effects no one, but I'm sure there's a Palestinian or two who might argue that your religion does directly effect people.
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    big bang does try to explain matter andy, i suggest you re-read your a-level textbooks there's the whole theory of lightbeams turning into light elements, then into heavy elements :lol:

    I have stated many times that I believe there to be a wisdom in the jewish philosophy that exceeds man's limitations.
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    then they're idiots, Israel was founded by athiests, established by athiests and is currently governed by athiests :lol:
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    I disagree.

    As I understand it The big bang and the creation of matter are totally different subjects.

    I don't think that proof of the big bang disproves god or visa versa.
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    are we onto religion again? The board Vs. Rabbi "i've given up my sinful ways" Joe?

    We all end up as dust eventually - nothing more nothing less.

    Some people just have such empty lives/heads they need 'guidance' thru their lives. Why bow, grovel and scrape like a slave, to a being you never see, does nothing for you, just on the off chance that when you die, there MIGHT be something after life? and on the basis of heresay passed down like chinese whispers over thousands of years

    Faith is such a strong, powerful belief - but like other things, it can make u blind to the obvious.
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    I think you're missing the point andy; you're the one who is dismissing G-d theory, not the otherway round.
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    Well, my Israel knowledge ain't so hot, but all religion directly effects people imo.

    Community/charity work being one example.
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    And there is the human race's biggest flaw - arrogance.
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    big bang theory explains that there was a highly energised ball of light which somehow exploded and from which all matter in this universe was born...

    I agree, I'm not debating big bang theory, I'm stating that we do not know how the universe came into existence and that as probability as we understand it is a product of this universe we can't apply it to the origins of existence.
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    and dawkins is the perfect example of this :D
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    ok I'll accept that and rephrase - my (as in me) religion effects no-one in a negative light.
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    I disagree, I hope that doesn't directly effect you. ;)
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    I don't require concrete evidence? I'm saying that no evidence exists either way... so any assumption is a leap of faith.

    I've said countless times I am of the Jewish faith, not the Jewish fact.

    As a scientist it is you who most prove otherwise like me you are subscribing to a faith based belief.

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