Armin Van Buuren & Sander Van Doorn Interview

the reason why you need a tune is because not one agency in the uk will touch you without you making it very easy for them to find you gigs - if you have a hit tune out, people look for you to play for them, not the other way around. promoters wont just hire someone cos they talked fast on the phone, they wont take the risk, they go straight to an agent. agents are fucking lazy and dont want to do the ground work they used to for djs, now they've found a way not to. hence, you now need a tune.

eddie was in the right place at the right time, he's not a great dj, he's not even original, he's just a dj. unfortunately, the standard that everyone else has stuck to has been very low. everyone beat matches, so they think thats all a dj can do/does.

making tunes will keep your name in the public's eye, regardless of whether you can rock a crowd or not, its your name in public that fills clubs, not skill, not talent, nothing else.

the problems the general public have is, there's a lot of producers that make great music, but have no idea how to be djs - which makes for all them (packed) shit nights you have down your local - and the problem for djs with experience is, they now have to learn how to make music in order to pursue their career

I sincerely hope that was a joke.

Absolutely not. Why would it be?

Because it was a poor statement, eddies different class.

I suppose that depends on the level you're happy with.

He wouldn't be where he is now with anything other than being at the highest level, FACT.

he is no where near the highest level, and never has been. he's just much better than the djs you're used to seeing.

he is popular, but as ive said, that doesn't have anything to do with being at any level.

He didn't get to where he is now through popularity, thats another poor statement. when asked in interviews, any of the top dj's who they admire, respect and who is the most technically skilled dj in the business, halliwell will be there no question. Theres always been scepticism with eddie, mainly from people who aspire to be where he is at now.

hmm, Tricky one, i agree with jase there well said man. But i also agree with willa in a way about eddie. Its actualy a tough argument this like, a mean Tiesto voted eddie on his number1 list last year, but to be honnest a think alot of eddies career now was down to him & Mr "CDJ".

He was the first to really hammer a cdj & scratch like he does infront of 1000s which gobsmaked alot of people coz they had basicaly never heard anythin like it done on a cd deck in a rammed club. Yeah i know he was good with the vinyl 2, but no Dj had ever tried to pull that off with cdjs.

But u both have this argument and its way over my head now jase is spot on about the production etc, but am not sure how to tar eddie. Lets hope this forum/thread doesnt find its way onto his computer screen :angel2:

i find you telling me ive made a poor statement pretty ironic. keep reading, i'll try and make some more.

if popularity had nothing to do with it, why aren't there more people in his position? you cant tell me you think he's the only dj out there that has any skills? popularity has everything to do with it, skills come second every time these days. you think he's different/original compared to the rest because everyone else you watch is technically shite, to the point they will admit it...

I hope you're not trying to tell me the likes of Tiesto has any skill? And in his case (and others in the dj mag top 10) if you dont have any, you're not in a position to comment.

back to your previous statement, if the top djs are saying Eddie is better, why isnt eddie at the top, and them underneath him?

alot of people would love to be in his shoes, its hard to get there, and for many, it would be hard to fill his. for me its not the fact that i would like his actual job in particular, but there are so many out there no where near his standard making a huge living. to say a dj is in a different class is wrong, he's just at a level that 95% will never get to - and as long as they're getting away with it, wont even try

im not sure how i always end up getting involved in a debate about eddie, i have nothing against him, or of what he does.

people like yoda and zabiela are a million miles ahead of eddie and tiesto

Zabiela is good like, no doubt about that.

lol your loving the phrase EDM, atm like !

aye i know what it stands for hew

ill come and pick creed up today too mate, he'll be getting lonely in that garage:cyber:

thats going to be even harder than learning to produce music and even less of a chance of succeeding

im not going to quote everything again, i cant be arsed

i was talking about eddie from a technical point of view, i have no doubt he's a great entertainer - he's not original in the sense that just because he does a few tricks doesnt make him the highest figure or be at the top of the game, he just does shit that the other 95% of edm djs cant/wont. basically, again, the right place at the right time.

dave pearce is brilliant at what he does. anthem bash. i rate him miles higher than jules at live gigs. they all have talent on the radio, otherwise they wouldn't be still on air. look at seb fontaine for example.

deadmau5 in the same category as zabiela, 2manydjs and yoda?

ive seen pvd be brilliant (gc nec) and completely shite (foundation). laptop djs are boring. i should know, im one. (ish)

you quoted me saying something about tiesto, it was rory that said it, not me

back on topic - the video was pretty good, it showed armin in a good light. i wasnt too impressed with sander, but a good example of building a dj career from production

Actually, i did talk to him about Tiesto, face to face. so it looks like ur goin out to sea with him

P.S. Did u type all that on Microsoft Word first?, it was like looking at the Terminators personal statement b4 forcing my self to read through but since its you keiran, i read it anyway :argue: