Are you a registered donor?

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  1. BRID

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    aahhhhh seen it now!! lol - it was on the telly this morning, i just felt it need to be said - great minds darling :love:
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    I already give to charity by monthly direct debit, and have just been through one of the most painful experiences of my life in order to raise money for Ghurka Welfare Trust and Oxfam. As I don't have any children, the majority of my estate when I die will go to charity. And I live in a one bedroomed flat, so kind of hard to give a spare room to anyone homeless.

    The point is that when I'm dead, my body is entirely useless to me, as there won't even be a 'me' any more. I won't lose anything at all by allowing other people to have any bits that they need, and for the rest to help other people learn to be doctors. All that will happen to it otherwise is that it will be stuck in a hole in the ground, or burnt in a way that is terrible for the environment. To me it's a no-brainer.
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    You'll be gutted if Zombies manage to take over the world and raise the dead
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    oh lawdy I agree with Brid :eek:
    every day some new piece of legislation comes out which limits your personal freedom. People think these rights just somehow exist and we always had them. Well generations of people in the past died so that we could have basic rights like no punishment without trial, (about to go in the next year, trial by jury (suffering death by a thousand cuts) legal aid (ditto)
    arbitrary seizure of assets by the state (went 5 years ago), right to protest peaceably, trades union rights, free health service (going), politicians determining jail sentences according to how loud the tabloids howl, government sanctioned torture, the state having the right to demand your intimate personal details be put on a card for petty officials to snoop at whenever they fancy, all of us fingerprinted, iris scanned, crimes never removed from your record, cctv watching your every move (even in the bloody toilet in some cases for gods sake) right down to stupid things like not being able to eat mushrooms, smoke tabs or play music without some official poking their neb in.
    every single restriction of our basic freedoms is a small victory for all those like al qaida who want to destroy free societies like ours.

    *rant rant fume fume*
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    I know all that, I want a link to this ID Card scaremongering that you posted ;)
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    I firmly believe most humans are genuinely helpful and dont like to see anyone suffer .... its in our nature as sociable animals to do that.

    I really do believe in organ donation, and giving blood (Ive done it myself - before i pickled my internals) .... but what i believe more strongly in... is choice.

    Imagine a world where a letter drops through your door reminding you to turn up to a clinic a week on tuesday to have your internal organs scanned for donation purposes - or that you will be taxed at a higher rate if you live far away from a city because you have a rare blood type and its better if you live closeby ...... extreme examples, but any more extreme than this world we live in today, compared to how current laws might have sounded to our great grand parents.
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    ffs are people still moaning about smoking in pubs....the government were right to do this (and i smoke). The majority of people in this country dont smoke so why should they have the air around them pollutted? Its not really much effort to pop outside to do it is it?
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    :lol: :lol: What a load of guff, this is Daily Mail territory :lol:
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    Everyone is talking about personal liberties, but you'll be dead! At which point there is no 'personal' to have any liberties.
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    Not everyone is (seemingly) an atheist though.
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    with a subheadline about Maddy / How a Muslim was allowed to wear a birka to school ??
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    I cant help it if my speeches sound like Braveheart's! ;)
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    Maybe a shrivelled, prunelike organ will be re-hydrated by the hand of god/allah/buddha/jehova/g-d/shiva/whoever in the afterlife ....
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    i think it's a bit of a liberty that ANY doctor COULD, once you're dead, can say they can take any part of you for any reason - thats too far - so there would have to be pretty strict guide lines - however, it would benefit some many people - it would be rude not to.

    so says the Science
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    Den no, seriously.

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    I saw many people at the freeman coming in looking relatively healthy but with liver problems, then over the months their conditions rapidly deteriorated, jandice, weight loss etc and I met a lot of nice people who died waiting for a transplant but didnt get one purely because the number of donors is far too low.

    If anyone really cares what happens to their flesh once theyre dead then under the opt-out system they can do just that. I dont see why anyone should have a problem with it.
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    they cud have my liver but it wud prob just make them worse:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    Well I don't smoke but I think the level of hysteria drummed up about secondary smoking was nuts. Every time your freedom is curtailed there is always an ostensibly 'good reason ' for doing it.
    It is so hard to see clearly at the time, it is only in retrospect that you see how much we have lost. nobody gets hurt if you ride a motorbike without a helmet for instance, except for you, but you had that freedom removed. I don't think it is the governments job to save us from ourselves if we want to be involved in risky behaviour it should be up to us.
    And the air is polluted by cars, factories and cow farts. do we ban them all. Why just smoking?

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