Ableton.

I dont understand why its naff? Obviously the beatmatching skill is taken away but what else? Looping 4 tracks will obvously sound shit but looping 4 parts of different tracks (usually stripped down tracks) can sound ace and totally changes each track into something new and innovating..


I know some can be really lazy and use it as a simple mixing tool with effects, but its just boring!

if you're doing that much to a track, it has more similarity's to producing than djing - taking samples from different sources and putting them together

back to my problem of seeing ableton as a production tool, not something to 'dj' from

So is it 'Live' if you are 'remixing' tracks that arent yours?

the man from eastenders speaks the truth.

if i ever spyed an oldskool dj using anything but records id be dissapointed.

the term 'live' is another piss boiler .

i was so high i could see for miles around - danced near this old biddie far left . was good just my type of music but a let down in a way, im glad you seen my point .

square pusher was shit , but massonix before marc broom was slow start but picked up,playing live , im glad i seen him as i learnt a new trick for my tr909 whilest doing live work.

thread highjack ovewith

what was the problem? how did you solve it?

Perhaps the decoding cache overloaded? There is a cache within the Ableton program files that stores the tracks played as WAV files. This can start your computer to slow down and the percentage of computer usage to go up dramatically, hence Live cutting out. Ive never had it cut out completely dead though, only when I illegally downloaded version 7!

With the advent of Ableton et al, the whole art of DJ-ing/performing has been liberated. Now you can in theory go traveling throughout the world, laptop in tow, DJ just about anywhere, and share music with people you meet on your travels. Not really possible with a bag of vinyl or CD's.

im sorry, but i have to draw the line at putting 'art of djing' and 'ableton' in the same sentence. have a word please

If you are serious about using your computer for performance/production then its best to get the best possible soundcard money can buy (edit: ie the most you can afford!). I bought the USB version of the M-Audio Audiophile and it was pretty crap..

Motu soundcards are highly recommended like but they are fair expensive..

http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/10064

Windows 7 is being rushed out a year early due to the shite reception Vista has had.

does it mean you can play a guitar and the drums now as well, seeing as you can do that in ableton too? trumpet? trombone, violin? after all, its only by passing some of the skills, skills that can be taught to anyone with hands, ears & a semi-working brain

I'll pass thank you, seeing as the laptop hotshot 'electronic music' I choose to go see does not see technicalities as beatmatching as important, hence the liberated tag in my last post.

Some people are guitarists, some people are musicians - i can see a difference there.

i always see a DJ as what they play being the most important thing, how they structure it and the atmosphere they create - however i still like to see that bit of 'performance' too