Thoughts on this......

Mackems never pay for things

Apart from sex from women down your way.

I don't believe that people are born 'evil' These two had upbringings which brutalised them and led to their appalling crime. I have a son and I would not sign this. I can't really see how **********'s slavering desire for revenge makes him fit to pass judgement on others.
As regards the IRA bombings the parents of people killed who said they wanted no more killing were the impressive ones not the ones with hatred in their hearts.
Nothing will bring Jamie Bulger back but hatred and revenge just cause more pain

You say it's because of there upbringings that they killed Jamie Bulger? Then surely this is the case for most murderers?

i dont have a "slavering desire" i just dont thinki they deserve a second chance to do anything of that nature again

If it was only due to upbringing then surely this wouldn't of been the first murder case for a child? It would happen all the time.

I do believe in rehabilitation but they should of seen the inside of a prison cell until they were 30. They only lost there teenage years and it's hardlies the same spending time in a juvenline facility rather than an adult prison.

In the eyes of the law
under the age of 10 they are not responsible for their actions
between the ages of 10 and 14 they must admit they knew that what they were doing was wrong.
So as i see it somewhere during their interviews they must have admitted they knew it was wrong and the police, prosecution and courts believed they knew it was wrong. Hence they were both convicted.

But i agree that they can change over time and possibly become decent members of society when they are older and more mature.

I know quite a few people who have committed murder and are now out of prison and you couldn't meet nicer people.

I agree, I used to do stuff in my youth that I'd never do now and i think back and think I was a right bastard!

i can pass judgement simply because in the case of jonathan and tim i was there!!! i was a year older than Tim and i knew him very well, i seen what was left of them i was literaly feet away when the bomb went of and i've seen the devistation it left on peoples lives when they lose a child , i know it's not the bulger case but it is still horrific murder of innocent children and i dont think i should excuse my reasons for hating anyone that would do this sort of thing be-it an adult or child .

we staked out a little kid for the sun torture when I was a kid. I wouldn't do it now

Im not sure i agree with that

I dont believe everyone is a blank canvas. Surely SOME of the genetic makeup of someones personality is set from the off just as some people are destined to be fat/bald/ugly/spotty etc etc.

There are kids that my girlfriend teaches that have severe anger issues and alot of that comes down to their upbringing. However its thought among some circles that the upbringing is just a trigger and that some kids really are just born angry.

On the flipside, I remember we used to do stupid things like pour salt on Slugs to make them bubble, set spiders on fire, put sodium bicarbonate on bread to try and make Seagulls explode (never suceeded ) or throw bangers at outdoor bird cages. There used to be these 2 little hits that lived next to me when i was about 12 who used to do my nut in so I helped them climb a massive tree and then jumped out the tree and left them up there, screaming there heads off.

I would never dream of doing anything like that these days which is proof that as you get older your sense of morality changes. We didnt do those things because we subconciously wanted to hurt things, we just didnt know the knock on effect of what we were doing.

And as far as I know none of my mates from then have commited any massively offside acts (apart from getting married and getting their partners up the duff at the age of 17)

but Rob no offence! you don't have a half inch wide scar on your chest where a seven and a half inch shard of cast iron speared in do you i was fuckin close to being killed and i know it and i hate the fucker that put me and all those innocent people in that position , and no amount of social guilt trippin will change that ,

well lets see shall we you come back to me if (and i fucking hope this NEVER happens) your child is murdered and tell me you still feel the same

well yes but 'evil' implies that they are pre-destined to be anti-life. I don't think evolution would do that.
And labelling people as evil lets us (and them) off the hook. I believe everybody has the capacity for evil acts given the right circumstances.