Man-made global warming.... biggest myth of this century

it is my belief that for these nations to become sustainable they must be allowed to create the wealth that can generate that sustainability.

these nations cannot develop on our hand-outs. they are already playing catch-up in the global economy, why handicap them further?

you talk about becoming sustainable, however it is unlikey that these developing countries once they reach developed levels similar to ourselves will continue to have birth trends like they do now - all evidence suggests that in developed countries birth rates are falling. the population explosion will likely plateau once we reach a fully developed world.

everyone deserves the chance to experience the things you mention such as clean water - and they will only reach the developing world on mass by empowering those countries to develop.

that is not to say they should not be given encouragement to use new technologies, but by no means should we, or do we have the right to, restrict their development.

Andy squirm all you like but the carbon levels clearly follow the temprature:





The data from the ice core clearly has an 800 year lag, every ice core survey produces this same lag.... As oceans warm up they emit more CO2 and as they cool down they absorb more.

You attempted to explain this in your intial post, but didn't realise the 800 year lag is constant... not just at the beginning,

Current CO2 models also are in agreement with icecores...CO2 follows the temprature... You can cite as many scientists as you like - but until you address this key issue... you're merely peddling propoganda.

CO2 follows temprature.

Ours maybe running out but theres plenty more to drill around the world. and We only stopped digging coal cos it cost too much to dig up, that doesn't mean we've run out. If need be we could start digging again in the future.

Lets say we do conserve some of the fossil fuels, whats going to happen when they eventually run out? You lot are saying we cant count on a new energy source being created, so basically were fucked anyway.

Like someone posted earlier, the main worry is overcrowding! If you stop this then you'll also solve the problem of low fossil fuels.

andy to that scale 1 pxl = 1000 years

your lines are 2000 years thick.

seaham will become the next financial capital of the world. god bless the cliffs

I thought you'd be able to read a graph... my bad.

what the graph shows is theres an average lag of 800 years, but often a lag of millenia - this is caused by the oceans memory... it isn't releasing carbon from triggers today but from rises decades/centuries/millenia ago.

rather than pulling the ipcc line, do a little research - you'll amaze yourself.

my theory is people create body heat, theres to many people on the planet warming the earth.

Population reduction is where the solution is!!!!

population reduction will be the end all of most problems on earth,human over breeding is what should be stopped, for a while at least.
10 yrs ago i remember all the tabloids telling us that there will be a population drop as many people will be sterile etc etc .
the exact opposite has happened !!

the problem is how do we do it ?

alex was taking the piss.... you can't cull humans.

you could give everyone in the third world aids though, that would work!!

have the chinese not been doing it for years ??

restriction and reduction are two different things mate

well i'm sure that the thousands of children killed in brazil,china and korea every year will feel much better now they know they were just "RESTRICTED".

i never said that it would be good to "kull" as you say but that we should start thinking of reducing future numbers in the world.

they're not killed, they're restricted to one child per family (in the major cities).... they don't go round shooting the poor children... you're confusing chitty chitty bang bang with real life

hmmmmmmmmm !!
looked like they were killing them to me in 2001 when i was in rio.
the police actually had gunships driving round the ghetto areas shooting them.
also in china and korea many people kill female children.

I work in china mate and I can assure you they don't kill the girls

in rio they were shooting street kids/criminals... reducing crime and reduce populations are not the same thing... its like saying the UK is de-blacking neighbourhoods everytime a yardie is arrested.

fines, quite severe in some cases.

As John-Thor Dahlburg points out, "in rural India, the centuries-old practice of female infanticide can still be considered a wise course of action." (Dahlburg, "Where killing baby girls 'is no big sin'," The Los Angeles Times [in The Toronto Star, February 28, 1994.]) According to census statistics, "From 972 females for every 1,000 males in 1901 ... the gender imbalance has tilted to 929 females per 1,000 males. ... In the nearly 300 poor hamlets of the Usilampatti area of Tamil Nadu [state], as many as 196 girls died under suspicious circumstances [in 1993] ... Some were fed dry, unhulled rice that punctured their windpipes, or were made to swallow poisonous powdered fertilizer. Others were smothered with a wet towel, strangled or allowed to starve to death." Dahlburg profiles one disturbing case from Tamil Nadu