FAO Tory Boy (a.k.a Jambon)

If all governments are mad egotistical power crazy then Communism is ideal for them.Everything centralised & monopolised & run by them sounds like a CAPITALISTS DREAM

spence, thats the point tho isnt it?

precisley revel... always amused by these threads, always come out with the same deluded self righteous views...

Surely all out leninism provides no alternative to the capitalist the bureaucratic heirachy? The soviet government was just as repressive as its predecessor Leninism was never able to escape the confines of bourgeois politics because of this..

I agree with you that communism isn't a natural progression which can be as predictable as emmerdale, like Marx dictated. I like you don't know how and if change towards a left economic system will ever comme about.... However if it does come about I unlike you hope it will be nothing like a Leninism.... As Leninism was no alternative to capitalism.... It wasn't even an alterntive to fascism.

Me and Joe never agree on anything!! He's an arse!





We have a quality laugh at stonelove tho!!

Bouze rocks for a fascist....

hey found a forum sympathetic with your politcal stance jambon :

http://www.combat18.com/forum/

they were all for going to war with the "rag heads" and "sand monkeys"

Dont see how you think im right wing???

GREED IS NOT HUMAN NATURE!!!!!!

EXPLOITATION IS NOT HUMAN NATURE!!!!!

CONSEVRATISM IS NOT HUMAN NATURE!!!!!

can you tell me one left wing value new labour holds?

Unions.

like the fire departments union?!?!?!

New Labour has no value for unions - new labour see's them as a dated old labour dinosaurr

The fire brigade are a discgrace......


thats a whole other kettle of fish.

darwins theory of evolution pray on the weak so the strong become stronger.
is this not true?
therefore people become greedy for more power.

1. Darwins theory of evolution is massively disputed in the professional world... However I'm nto a biochemist and we're not discussing Darwins theory of evolution so I wont go into this (As I couldn't if I tried )

2. I fail to see how exploitation is human nature? As cavemen we lived in communities, it was only until the introduction of the slave system that we started exploiting other humans... I'd like to think we've progressed somewhat as a race since the days of roman slave systems. I fail to see how exploitation is human nature... can you give me a real arguement as to why this is so.

Your looking at communism as a capitalist... communism isn't and never was about money... the corruption in say Leninism usually was driven by the lust for power (at least imo)...

Communism devalues greed and money lust, in communist utopia's greed as we know ti shouldnt' exist... A simple way of looking at this is if its human nature to be greedy why do religions like harri krishana exist?

Greed isn't human nature - it is conditioned...

of course greed is in human nature....

How does celebrity worship create greed?

I don't know how you'd reverse the cycle of greed, as unlike communists I enjoy competition.

anarcho-communists would as user patriot pointed out only work in small communities like many of the right wing survivalists in America.

Explain why followers of harri krishna don't need material possessions then?

How is greed human nature? Just because a shit load of humans are greedy and have been greedy is not basis for a scientific arguement.... No one is questioning that humans have the capacity for greed, feudal and capitalist economic systems have proven this. But we also have the capacity for generosity. Greed is only a detriment to individuals and society. I fail to see how its human nature as so many humans aren't greedy.