Aw FFS

Point to where I said I'd ask if someone was a burglar. As a last resort I'd give someone a good smacking until they were no longer a threat but I wouldn't go all out as if that person had just stabbed my family buy chucking them out of a window. I doubt any of you could live with yourselves if you ended up killing someone over a dvd player and an xbox 360.

Allowing some room for beatings of house intruders would lead to a tonne of false scenarios using this get out clause.

However, I would happily hurt an intruder beyond belief, but I would then put him on the pavement outside and deny everything.

How do you know they'll have brain damage? I wouldn't be purposely trying to cause brain damage, I would be trying to immobilise them from being able to cause harm to myself.

If a burglar has just been thrown to the floor and is risking the chance of spending a long time in prison do you think he's just going to leave me alone?

What your saying is stupid. Pushing someone that is potentially there to take your stuff regardless of what it may take is just asking for trouble. Unless you're a trained fighter, or you know for sure that you're gonna be able to protect yourself and your family if you try to take on a burglar then your chances are as good as theirs.

Exactly. There's more chance he's going to want to kill you than risk going to prison. I'd rather lose a few pieces of hardware and claim on insurance.

You said they might not be burglars, if I came home and someone has my tv in there arms I'm guessing they're a burglar.

What if you cant give them a beating because they're alot bigger than yourself and you have a bat in your hands. Would you just let him walk out after he's just trashed your house and has all your stuff in his van?

Would you risk killing someone over accepting the possibility that maybe that night, you hadn't locked all your doors and windows?

Put yourself in his position though. someone walks in on you nicking there gear. You're going to think they're gonna do something about it so you would automatically go for them first before they get a chance.

It's not a question of that though. It's a question of whether you'd risk your own life for the sake of his. You don't know what he's going to do. If he ran off i probably wouldn't chase after him. But if he's there in your house with you then you should be allowed to take them down.

erm no. Why should you have to be a trained fighter to do something about a possible risk to you and your family? that is why you should be allowed to hoy them out of a window or beat them with a baseball bat. They're a risk to you and possibly your children and he's broek into your home, stealing your possessions and you just let him punch you as he leaves. Yeah right!

You're putting the interests of the criminal first before the victims.

If you hear a noise in another room and you think it could be a burglar (or a few of them), why is it a smart idea to go in and have a look? Suppose he is a massive muscle bound bloke, you're going to have a hard job "pushing them to the floor and hitting them with a bat" aren't you.

IMO:

1. Phone police and stay in the other room
2. Try and scare the burglar/person away by slamming a door or something
3. Try and overpower the person until they're no longer a threat.

I'd take those steps if the previous didn't prove effective.

Have you ever heard a noise downstairs and went to have a look? Not everyone lies cowering in his bed thinking the bogey man is raiding his fridge.

You said you shouldn't be allowed to do this not long ago?

My point is, you know nothing about the person. What if he's a trained boxer or something?

How easy do you think it is to actually overpower someone who knows it's either win or go to prison? Have you ever been in a proper fight before? I would not fancy my chances or coming out on top if I walked into a room and realized there was someone twice the size of me standing there.

quote where I said anything of the sort.

a) but theres a differecne between the noise of someone unplugging your tele and the noise of someone stumbling about pissed.
b) Well youve sort of justified using force here. he might have a weapon (especially in this day and age) so why would i want to hang about and find out?
c) yes i did lose my straws.

I really think that nowadays it would be better to act first and ask questions later. theres a lot more stabbings, and guncrime in certain areas, and if given the opportunity to crack an intruder over the head with something heavy, i dont think i would think twice. I may live to regret that decision but id rather be safe than sorry.

So fuck? Whats he doing in my house?

So you'd rather fight someone like this in the hope that he'd lose/run off, rather than phone the police and stay your distance/out of sight for as long as possible? I think people are getting confused over what I'm arguing against here

Yes, I wouldn't hesitate to crack a burglar a few times until I'd restrained him, but I certainly wouldn't put myself in that situation just so I wouldn't have to claim on my insurance for a few things. Anyone who says they'd do otherwise to protect themselves and their family is daft because you're not facing as much of a risk until you're face to face with someone.

There is no burglars like this anyway.

All burglars are skinny charvs.

FACT.

Loads of charvs train as boxers cos they think it's what will get them through life being known as a hard cunt I still wouldn't fancy my chances against some coke'd up skinny boxer charva when I've just woken from my sleep at 3am in the morning