Watched Indiana Jones last night...

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  1. ScottofshieldS

    ScottofshieldS Paranoid Android

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    Watched Indiana Jones last night...

    (Spoiler free)

    Watched all the first 3 films back to back yesterday, then watched Indy IV last night and...

    I absolutely loved it.

    After a bit of a shaky start where I was questioning Fords delivery (and if he really still felt like Indy) I was proven wrong.

    As soon as LaBeouf's character Mutt appears the film completely kicks off and becomes a perfectly paced adventure film.

    Spielberg is on fire and underlines the fact that there is nobody else out there who can construct and execute an action sequence like him (the jungle chase in particular is breathtakingly executed).

    I've spoken to a few people who have flagged issues with a few points (all i'll say is "Fridge", "Fencing" and "Vines") but I personally loved all those monents.

    It also veers off into new genre territory for Indy, especially in the final act. But this is a move I really liked, especially if they're going to continue the series with LaBeouf's character as the lead.

    All in all there's some serious big hitters at play, showing how it should be done.

    10/10.

    (PS) Look out for the "mushroom" shot - it is fucking awesome.
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  3. ManofScience

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    Sweet - i'm going to tonights then!!!
  4. adam.

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    is it out today ?!

    me and my lass were looking for summit to go see but with the champions league final i dont think we'll bother, tomorrow it is !
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  7. Lee

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    u going with rach?

    i cant wait to see this film, the greatest franchise of films ever on par with star wars
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    Took a while to get going, poor indy looked well rusty however once he was fighting, jumping, whipping - he was CLASS!

    Then fencing bit was a bit daft and the tarzan bit - but they were doing what the originals did - harking back to the early swash-buckling adventures or cowboys and knights of films from the 30's and 40's which is what inspired Indy. the mushroom bit was awesome the way the fire in the cloud rose - brilliant.

    However, for me, the last 15 minutes or so just lost it. it made NO sense?!?!? how the fuck did the original Conquistadors get IN the temple to pinch the crystal skull? why did the aliens seal themselves in supposedly alive then? why did it take them putting back to bring them to life? the idea that it was aliens that taught all the early civilisations these techniques is a really good idea it just seemed to get very sketchy at the end. i loved it all the way thru then the last 15mins put a real dampner on it.

    However, the funny bit at the end where the hat rolls at his feet and you think he's going to pick it up BUT Indy gets it as if to say "not yet....." good stuff :up:
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    sa it last night, wished it was better. it was ok but there were some dodgy as fuck bits. way way too far fetched, like the fridge bit and the whoe aliens thing. it was canny cheesey aswell which granted the old ones were a bit but they got a way with it much better. overall a good watch but just lacking somet. cant help feel lucas has ruined somet else
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    Solid entertainment. Though some things I thought were iffy...

    - THe HD camera use made it seem too blatantly brand new.

    - Indiana Jones being a colonel. Is there anything he can't do? Blimey...

    - The kid in the library asking Indy a question on archaeology despite the fact he's just slid off a motorcycle with some greasy punk in tow. He seems so apathetic and without wonder at what's just happened.

    I guess though that this is because it's expected from INdy - but still.

    - Karen Allen grinning A LOT. Totally has the look of an out of work actress being overly thrilled to be handed a big fat part in a blockbuster.

    - Marion driving the RPG over the cliff. Umm okay, we know you're a feisty kinda girl power kinda personality but that just seemed a little out there.

    - Mutt and the Tarzan tribute - I know it harkens back to the swashbuckling, thigh slapping movies of old but I dunno - I think they just about got away with it.

    Spalko throwing the monkey over the cliff and the subsequent shot showing it survived so the kiddies wouldn't be upset, but the earlier blatant abuse of a snake as a rope.
    It's like oh sure, just because it's a reptile and not fluffy it doesn't matter?

    - Mutt seeming to accept Indy is his dad a little too easily. The whole thing of him using the word 'dad' at the end seemed canny cheesey.

    The Alien Skeletons combining to create a CGI Alien. If I was directing it I'd have just kept them as skeletons shooting the knowledge beams into Spalkos mind and then crumbling, fading.

    The rotate-to-form an alien bit wasn't needed - it gave too much of a literal face to what should be a mysterious force. The skeletons and heads alone were obvious enough.

    More back story on Spalko would have been nice and her position in the thought police. She seemed very self serving to her own agenda than the agenda of Stalin's regime. Where as in the early films the Nazi's were all about the Fuhrer and the 'bigger picture' of the nazi regime. I guess this isn't so much a weakness as it being a new bunch of baddies for people to adjust to - the cold war foreshadowing and the plastic town, bomb testing site was nice enough in terms of an allusion to the threat they posed.

    [By the way, am I creepy for thinking Spalko was hot - guess I have a thing for Slavic, femme fatale characters]

    - Mac seemed pointless. He kept changing sides all the time, what was his actual use to Spalko and her Ruskies again?

    Unsure about the ending. It wasn't bad - it was just... Whoah. Out there again. But at least Spielberg/Lucas/the other dude [Koepp?] provided enough to develop Indiana Jones acclimitising to the new future of things.

    The mushroom cloud scene is awesome.

    Overall - it just about gets away with it despite the elements of the standard format being stretched too far. Other than that - entertaining and not a bad addition to the existing series. A fair conclusion to things.

    Please please please though. NO Mutt, son of Indiana follow up series though.

    7/10 - GOOD.
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    I thought it was a good film and probably would of thought it was a lot better if I didn't have three unreal films to compare it to. It was full of action from start to finish and the scenes were well shot with limited CGI usage, which gave it a realer feel than most films you see these days. Some of the stunts didn't even look like they used stunt doubles. Speilberg is shit hot when it comes to things like this. :)

    What seemed to spoil it was how far fetched it got in some parts. The old ones were a bit daft at times but I think they were border line for what they could get away with! This just looked stupid at times. Especially the tarzan bit, the fencing and the part when she drove off the cliff onto a tree which lowered them down to the river and then catapulted back up to kill the Russians. :oops:

    It also looked too clean! maybe this is just cos I'm used to seeing the old ones which had an 80's feel to it and now going from that to modern day cameras just seems odd to look at.

    8.5/10
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    Was alright. Nothing more than that. Just "alright". Sorry but people have mentioned a few things wrong with it, but there shouldn't have been ANY of these things - the Indiana Jones series was amazing and really if they had stuck to the classic principles they would've been fine.

    But what did they do? Make some stupid kid with a knife as Indie's son, get some old-woman actor who fair enough was in the earlier movies - but now couldn't act to save her life, have some FUCKING STUPID story about ALIENS (what?! ALIENS??? it's not the fucking X-FILES!!)...and then a load of really stupid action scenes (swinging on vines, surviving a nuclear blast in a FRIDGE, etc.)

    Sorry but I count there being 3 Indiana Jones movies, there always was and there always will be. This was just a random spin off that didn't work.

    Fair play to Harrison Ford who did well to play his role again.
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    Indy was too slow, the action scenes seemed really slow and deliberate like he was being given five minutes to do a 'im lashing my whip' type thing.

    Karen allen wasnt the fiesty bird like in the first one, she was just like someones granny now, and her acting was rubbish.

    Too many far fetched scenes that were strung out for way too long .... that jungle chase thing was ruined for just looking way too choreographed and blatantly green screened.

    It had alot to live up to and i actually kind of enjoyed it, and was glad i went to see it ......... but for me its a smudged full stop on the end of the series.

    The first three are the 'indy films' as far as im concerned.
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    I thought it was good. I think too much pressure was on it, comparing to the last one. It was easy to watch and funny so no complaints here
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    I thought it was canny disappointing, though I'm being dragged along to Sex and the City next :cry:
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    Christ, some of the worst criticisms of a film ever in this thread :lol: :lol:

    Personally thought it was absolutely class

    it had everything you expect from an Jones film

    plus Cate Blanchett is immensely hot :groovy:
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    I loved it aswell.
    Had no problem with the Alien stuff. Alot of stuff regarding ancient civilisations hasnt been humanly possible to explain.
    And as for the action n that being far fetched, its all part of the fun, its Indianna Jones ffs.
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    Completely agree.
  20. ManofScience

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    saw it again last night.

    the more i watch it, the more i hate it. that grinning woman, the tarzan bit, the holes in the story line.

    i can handle the aliens and that they helped civilisations years ago is a good story to base it on - but it was just too much at the end. why were they sitting around waiting for the head to be nicked? how did the spanish get in? also, the russians weren't as evil as the nazi undertones in the first 3.

    proper gutted. indy himself was good, his back story, his involvement with the OSS - but the 'happy family' bit didn't work for me - he was always aloner, obsessed with his work - like his dad... i dunno.

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