The KKK

The KKK

It amazes me how these people manage to keep their websites up on the net?

They are BLATENTLY breaking their terms of service with their providers but nothings done about it.

Im sure theyve gone from provider to provider in their time after people have complained and these sites have been brought down, but when they sign up to a new one, dont new providers see whats coming.

Either theyre sympathisers or they just dont give a shit if they're paying to use their services which is probably the case, thats until someone complains and they have to take the sites down.

How far should freedom of speech go? Should they be taken down or should they be kept up so people can realise just how full of shit these people are?

I don't believe in freedom of speech

Cant tell people what they can and cant say......doesnt mean what they say is right...its far from right!

Anyone with any sense can see them for what they really are.

However - I dont doubt they can build up a following by filling people with their shit. Some people will believe anything they r told unfortunately.

What happens when you have an influencial person like say david beckham who takes a very anti-gay stance... should he be allowed to say that all fags should be burnt?

I believe society should lay down moral guidlines.. certain things shouldn't be allowed... Fortunatly in england this is the case... rcaism and ish is illegal

fuck freedom of speech

Freedom of speech should be an inalienable human right wherever you are


























apart from for right wing bigots

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it

pmsl!!

Nat should a 50 year old man be allowed to tell an 8 year old little girl he's going to fuck her up the schfincter?

Should a skinhead be alllowed to run around town singing white is right, white is right kick em out and fight fight fight.

Freedom of speech is a nice idea, but society has to lay down guidelines...

people are entitled to there own opinion

but some opinions shoud;n't be voiced.

no-one can stop a pedo from thinking what he thinks, but if he publically anounces it something should be done.

freedon of speech is an american conceptg and causes them massive problems.

Yeah I agree with you but its better to be voiced and noted than not voiced and done behind closed doors, this way it gives the police the edge over them

you'll never take away freedom of speech no matter how much it screws the country up

erm england doesn't have freedom of speech?

You can be arrested for racism.

And in fairness behind closed doors is foten better, people carry influence... People are impressionable, if someone can publically insight racism on richard and judy, they do far more damage than they could possibly do in the privacy of their own home.

I was reffering to America. Can you not get arresed over there for racism?

I get that yeah, im not saying its right to publicise it, I think there should be a point to which they can go to before action is taken. But who defines it? who says what people can and cant say? no matter how much you tell people they cant do it they'll still voice there own opinions anyway

As I understand it a racist can speak of his beliefs but as soon as he discriminates he breaks the law... the american legal system is in a massive mess as the constitution is dated... They don't know whether they are coming or going.

this is why parties like the kkk can operate legally

Well thats america for you though the whole countrys well screwed up and ours isnt that far behind it either now.......

I'm with you. People have the right to express their opinions, but with that they also must take responsibility for any reasonable offence that may be taken. (subjective dependent upon who hears those words)

The laws have been established in this country through gradual constrictions on the freedom to express yourself. Freedom of speech is not a recognised concept in English Law.

These limitations have been put in place to protect people, but also to establish acceptable levels in a society.
(defamation, slander, racist remarks, homophobic, xenophobic, and any discriminatory remarks.)

In the US
Yes you can be arrested for acts of racism, and the words used can put weight behind these acts. (eg, racially aggravated assault) but words alone are almost always allowed in criminal law. Civil Law is another matter altogether. Sued to buggery there.
But freedom of speech is not universal, there are amendments limiting certain areas. (inc. their equivalence to treason)

So in effect your supporting the american way?

Think just looking at the racism problem in america in comparrisson to england highlights just how much damage freedom of speech can do.

Compare us to the americans on nearly anything and its alot worse over there, the americans tend to go OTT on most things

"the freedom of speech is established when a child utters its first words, no man has the power to take that freedom away" Some old American Dude being v badly quoted (History was on a mon morn, explains memory loss)

US is a land of immigrants, many races striving to co-exist for hundreds of years. Comparison of racism to us is therefore obviously going to be a poor one.
They have however established rights of equality, including speech.

This created a very memorable moment in history for a certain black man, who otherwise would have been prevented from speaking his & millions of other's views. While slating free speech, remember all the good it has done for social development over the last hundred and odd years.

Don't think US is perfect by a long way, but neither is our system. Prevention of free speech, leads to frustration,
frustration leads to anger,
anger leads to suffering...

somones been watching too much starwars