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  1. ZeGermens

    ZeGermens I Am A Fucking Hero

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    rent/buy?

    anybody on here rent a house/flat?

    waste of money that could be spent on morgage?

    and who would you reccomend going through?

    cheers :D
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  3. BRID

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    Renting ISNT a waste of money - although most people seem to say this like its the truth.

    If your rent on a place is LESS than what an interest only mortgage would be, its financially BETTER to rent.

    .... case in point, my flat costs less than HALF what my landlord pays in a mortgage. So he has to find the other half each month to make the payment up. Also, the flat is now worth nearly 60 grand LESS than what he bought it for - not much of an investment eh ;)
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    ZeGermens I Am A Fucking Hero

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    cheers, im toying with the idea of rentiny a place as i dont really want to be tied down with a morgage like

    who would you say is the best agents to go through?
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    It depends where you live though Brid. Maybe in London and it's suburbs the mortgage would be alot more than rent but up here it's not much different. I'd much rather be paying something off that one day will be paid for outright. If you continue renting you'll have to do so when you're retired, which will eat up most of your pension. I'd also want to leave some kind of inheritance for my kids.

    Maybe a house value could go down over a few year but over long term it will always go up in value.

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    People have said that ... but i'd like to see an example of where a place is cheaper to buy than it is to rent the equivalent sort of place up north.
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    renting gets you nowhere its money which will never truely be yours in the long run, the landlord could kick you out whenever they want too and you cant say a thing
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    Thats a load of crap ;)

    .... a flat down here costs 250k ... which is 1700 a month in repayment mortgage.

    You can RENT the same place for 850 a month, and pocket 850 to save in whatever way you want. If you did that over 25-40 years you would have MORE money after all that, than if you put it in property (if we are talking averages).

    Meanwhile, you can rent and never need to worry about anything breaking and you having to foot the bill or anything like that. Plus you have the flexibility of moving and doing whatever you want, when you want.

    Renting is no worse than buying - its a lifestyle choice. Neither is any better than the other.
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    ZeGermens I Am A Fucking Hero

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    it would only be like a first place, moving in with a mate so i think renting would be the best way incase 1 of us decided 2 go back home, move with girlfriends etc...


    just wanted to see what other peoples opinions were on this...
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    Phil Mitchell check me a dollar brer?

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    that graph isnt that good because everything goes up in value in accordance to inflation (cans of coke were 35p when i was at school 10 years ago, now theyre 55p)...

    And you also get paid more because of it...aslong as you're income is going up by more than the rate of inflation then you're earning more (relatively) more, if it isnt then you arent.

    Inflation has doubled since 2006...now around 4.2% and if that goes down, interest rates go up and houses keep going up then theres going to be a lot of fucked people.

    There isnt really any proof either way if buying a house is a good idea or not because noone knows what is round the corner. Your main aim would be to just find somewhere you like, that you can afford, is structually sound and in a suitable area because at the end of the day youll have to buy a house one day (unless you are Forks ;) )
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    a lease?
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    Terribly geeky i know ..... but what Si said is right.

    If you price things in GOLD, then most things cost the same in gold as they always have - a house has always cost xxx ounces of gold on average, or a good suit and a pair of shoes has always cost xxx as well.

    ..... with that in mind, people have looked at the value of houses over time and they pretty much ONLY rise in line with inflation over the long term - so whats so good about buying a house, as opposed to putting your money in anything else?

    Inflation is what has stolen our ability to live a better standard of life than our parents have. Think about it - how come a terraced house built for MINERS to live in, or an ex council house previously built for low income families are now TOO EXPENSIVE for most of us to ever afford comfortably.

    I make good money, and i'd like to think i knew a few things about finance .... Renting is something im actually PLEASED to be doing.
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    I rent...for not that much at all! I have friends paying the interest only on their bought houses as it all costs too much!

    Saying that i'm itching to get on the property ladder, i want something to call my own and have nothing to pay when i'm older! Not that its going to happen at the moment.....i'm only on a 12month contract and the other half is getting made redundant in June.... Is there ever a right time to buy??
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    .. Give it a few years and save your wonga Sam - With northen rock going down the pan, and other banks soon to follow .... theres more chance than EVER that houses are going to cost alot LESS in the future ;)
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    Haha, thanks for the advice Mark :up: Guess the wait is STILL on for us then!! lol :)
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    .. plenty of time to sit around worrying about fridge freezers and decorating the hall when your in your mid thirties. Most of my home owning mates are all Skint anyways :lol:

    .... Till then, theres plenty of clubs left to visit, plenty of late nights to be had, and plenty of places to see ;)
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    :lol: I did buy a house and it was the only thing I ever did that ever made me any serious money. If I was still renting I'd be totally without any assets at all. Its true that IF you saved the difference between rent and mortgage you'd have x pounds in the bank but you don't. you spend it if you have it and end up skint.
    I was lucky and bought when prices had gone down and sold when they were high (I'd like to think that was due to me being clever but it was just luck) but I did buy ruins and bust a gut doing them up. It has left me in the position of owning my own house and not having to pay rent or mortgage. that will never happen if you rent.
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    That's my point though, you arnt going to lose money aslong as it keeps going up, even if it's in line with inflation. The mortgage you take out will stay the same for 25 years (give or take a few quid if you're on a variable rate). Inflation goes up and your pay goes up but your mortgage stays the same.
    If you're renting do you really think the rent you pay now is going to be the same in 10 year to 20 years time?
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    this is sooooo wrong.
    everything is down to supply and demand. there are around the same amounts of shoes and clothes as there always were so their prices have remained roughly the same as the gold of which you speak but land is a finite resource and the population of the UK doubled in the past 100 years.
    add to that the increased number of single households and it's easy to see why house prices have gone up. There are more people chasing houses than ther are houses being built so the price goes up. elementary economics.

    with planning and land use so tightly controlled and councils no longer able to build cheap homes for the poor folks ( another home goal from your heroine Thatcher ) the price of houses cannot help but rise.
    They may go up and down temporarily but in the long run it's a one way bet that the value of your house will increase.

    And where you get your idea that we don't have the standard of living that our parents had is bonkers. We are the richest generation ever in the uk.
    every year GDP goes up. we all have things that our parents could only dream of. The past 10 years have been some of the best for a lifetime and during your parents and grandparents lives inflation was often out of control.
    between 1974 and 1981 for instance inflation averaged 10% a year and from 1988 to 98 it increased by 52%:eek:

    I'm glad I don't have you as my economic advisor :lol:
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    Its a shame you dont back up all your teary eyed socialist talk with actual facts and figures ;)

    All your arguments are typical smoke screen against the real problems with alot of the problems in the world which boil down to a corrupt banking system and a few very very powerful people who pull the strings in this world.

    Im NOT a conspiracy theorist, but i suggest you read up on the bank of england, the federal reserve and money supply, and it basically answers alot of all the things people invent convenient excuses for .....

    I wonder where all the money came from to make things triple in price in 10 years eh ..... who printed all that cash? ;)
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    Apart from houses, what else has tripled in price?

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