PVD & Ferry Corsten Interview @ ADE 2008

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    PVD & Ferry Corsten Interview @ ADE 2008

    [ame="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-mFjuDppn9Y"]YouTube- Paul Van Dyk & Ferry Corsten Interview @ ADE 2008 - Underground TV[/ame]

    Really interesting interview, love how they get there point across about Internew Downloads :lol:... but i totally agree with them, in downloading tracks & not putting a penny in ever will leave previous & upncumin producers with fuckall, less money to work on new tracks, along with less gear etc.

    The thought of the mess this really can do longterm is scary, less music/artists & events maybe?. Ive done my bit though & still do from time to time buy tracks from the likes of Trackitdown.
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    ferry corsten's spot on like :) can't believe that PVD doesent regard himself to be in the trance scene, but thats germans for ya :lol:


    beautiful is a mint track as well :love:
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    I'm not sure about the point about downloads.

    People were still making tunes BEFORE the hardware and software became massively advanced, so saying you have to support digital downloads OR ELSE this will be threatened is a bit off.

    .... i doubt any money AT ALL is made from this scene unless you are at the very top, or at least half way up there. I wonder how much of the 99p or £1.99 you pay for a track from beatport or audiojelly actually goes into the pockets of the producers.

    For the majority of small time producers and dj's - you only do it for the love of what you do, and not the fact that its even going part of the way to finance it.
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    Re: PVD & Ferry Corsten Interview @ ADE 2008

    I doubt it. Just how many people who put nights on do you think actually make money off making music? Not many i would guess.

    Most people who produce music probably make more money off dj'ing that's not going to change, the money's already there from somewhere for promoters to put nights on so if they can afford dj's now then they will afford them in the future.
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    good mate of mine did this, really good interviews. hes got some awesome outtakes of pvd seems like a really funny bloke.
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    Re: Re: PVD & Ferry Corsten Interview @ ADE 2008

    I a totally understand what ur sayin m8, think the point ferry & pvd were at is, the less money they rake in for there productions the harder it gets for them to keep ontop of new stuff, & if thats them noticing problems, whats it gonna do for new n smaller producers. In the future this could cause problems in all fields.

    I think if anything in the future only the big fish will keep in the ring, once there time is up tho then what we left with lol some decent producers yeah, but it'll never be the same as it is or was.
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    Re: Re: Re: PVD & Ferry Corsten Interview @ ADE 2008

    Maybe it will make people try different more original approaches to music production.

    I cant see the crap about them making less money from productions actually screwing up their hopes of making any more tunes.

    I doubt any of the small producers are actually earning much coin from their stuff anyway. the market is swamped with tracks. I think the majority probably do it for their own satisfaction/enjoyment other than financial gain.

    The prodigy produced some seriously shit hot tunage in their day, and you can get better gear than they used for about 50 quid now lol
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    I wouldnt think twice about nicking a paul van dyk or ferry corsten track off the net.I know theyre not skint.If its a part time/amateur producer then I'll pay for it
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    The robin hood of internet piracy


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    your right, but can you imagine it from their side? the cash that ferry would of been making with his earlier stuff with gouryella and system F as opposed to this current age where his new album to download illegally for free is but a google search away? as with any track/album/film/DVD (within reason)

    tbh - EVENTUALLY in years and years they'll think of some way around music piracy and people will have to pay. either that or someone turning the internet off.

    they could certainly fuck it up a bit by shutting down sites like rapidshare, megaupload etc etc etc - but i am under the impression that the servers are held in mad countries with no internet regulation in consideration to copyright law? fuck knows.

    in 20 year's we'll all be going "ah remember the day's when all tunes were free"

    you can't get something for nothing without there being reprocussions, at least thats what the rule states.
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    Im not even sure its much of a problem .... if you take the piracy of albums out of it for a moment.

    Theres 2 types of downloading i do for dance music .... its either livesets which are free and legal.... or its tunes for mixing, which i get legally and legitimately from beatport or audiojelly....

    ... Perhaps im different to alot of people - but i cant see the point of pirating single tunes if you want to play your music out, or (in my case) do the odd mix for shits and giggles - my experience with alot of pirated music i USED to download a good 4-5 years ago were that the quality and pitch variations you used to get made it a waste of time in the end.

    I reckon DJ's have perhaps 1% of the problem that most artists in the mainstream music industry have where so much of their stuff is ripped off, and if it IS bought legitimately the end percentage going in the artists hands is a fraction of the retail price.

    .... It all comes back to the fact that perhaps DJ's (ones who make a living) should be happy that they make their living through working for it ... travelling around the world and playing their music live.
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    I think the music industry got to the point where it needed something like illegal downloading.

    The price of vinyl was far too much - i used to pay well over £6 per track. Then i went digital and was chuffed with what Beatport offered - then i realised if i brought a full ep (i only use wavs for the better sound quality) it would actually end up costing more than the expensive vinyl i used to buy!? £1.50 or £1.99 then £1 ''wav handling'' per track - WTF???

    CD albums used to be £13!! Thats not a fair price - its just pure fucking greed. Is £10 a fair price? Probably not.

    The whole music industry is one big fucking greed fest - from Beatport right through to the giants that put out pop records. Let them fucking whinge. Really, who's to blame for it all? :rolleyes:
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    i'm sure this arguement has been floating around for years about piracy killing the scene

    i think it'll just change the way producers/DJ's work - not releasing certain things so maybe it'll back to days of if u want to hear a tune go see that DJ - like what it used to be like when u had to hunt for vinyl in those back street record shops.

    but it's right, £8 for a bit of vinyl was ridiculous - but i still paid it week after week :lol:

    i think if they can release tunes quickly rather than letting them slowly get leaked it's not so bad - i still download OLDER tunes of the net (mainly ones i already own - a bit of a grey area..) but newer ones i usually always buy legit - i can't be arsed for faff around looking for tunes on various sites just to save a quid or 2
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    i know! i still seem to download loads of stuff i own for some strange reason :lol:

    the fact remains that the only reason that this has come about is because that older producers arent making as much coin as they used to, which goes to show that all of the stuff that is being banged out recently isnt 'for the money' - it's more (and ignore the cliche) 'for the music/scene'

    for example kearney seems to enjoy banging his tune's out for free - he's just gave out his most recent out for nowt (however this might be because of a leak) but still he's done it a few times before - plus other artists are doing it too (the thrillseekers just has, and a few others). i think it's mainly to do with the labels being a bit arsey over leaking and stuff and not making money - but in the digital age, do you really need a label to get massive (as apposed to rich/making money off the back of a single)?

    also - it seems quite hypocritical that alot of artists have radio shows too, which can be downloaded, as brid says, legally free - and that could be put towards the argument that it's killing album sales, but at the same time increasing interest of that certain artist live?

    i cant really come to the conclusion fully that it's killing the 'scene' i just dont think it's as profitable to be a low end producer than it used to be. illegal downloads has just seemingly added a few other levels to making mass profit - that is, if you want to make millions - you have to climb the almightly ladder to the top like armin, tiesto and most of the DJ jet set that are going about these days.

    it seems to have added more competition into the whole race, which can't really be a bad thing can't it?

    FFS - i've just sort of went agaisnt my own arguement a few times there. :rolleyes:
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    I think it's MASSIVELY killed the whole clubbing era & totally taken away the buzz in buying tracks now, granted the price of vinyl was extortionate but it's totally killed the whole experience. Back in the days of vinyl you actually had to go out clubbing to hear good music where you met loads of new people & had a crack on, there was nothing better than anticipating a club night or DJ where you knew you were going to hear a dozen bangers what nobody had a clue about then spending the next 2 weeks tracking them down, I had some amazing weekends going on road trips the length & breadth of the Country with a car full to places like Massive, Chemical & HTFR walking out with a stack of new tracks & no wages left, theres non of that these days, you can sit in your room grab a recent tracklist & have all the tracks legally/illegally within minutes.

    I do agree with PVD's point, however Artists these days dont make music for money as theres nothing in it, Beaport pay £1 (I think) for every track sold & it's even less on sites like DJ Download, Audiojelly etc... etc... it's more an exposure thing which leads to gigs where the money actually is, you cant put a price on someone like Van Dyk, Tiesto or Armin charting your productions.
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    Beatport is fucking boring. It gives me a headache.

    I just rapidshare everything I might like and buy it if I want it for my CDJ's & Allen & Heath Xone 92 4 channel mixer.
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    tbh proudy - like it or not, that's the way it's going to be from now on i'm afraid :(

    however talking recently, and I KNOW it sounds like botting - but Jnr:G was the last night that i ever anticipated going to, and i know a fair few people who used to as well. it was the underground feel that had everyone by the necks. it was class.

    FIU on boxing day had the bleakest crowd going, about 80% didnt even know what was going on/turning up for halliwell alone. hence downey's set's crowd being unfortunately bleak. thousands of miles away from the appreciative crowd of promise years ago.
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    The fact of the matter remains - Allen & Heath Xone 92 mixer or not, if people don't supply the producers, demand will dwindle and they won't put any good tunes out.

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