Orbital... Pioneers of Trance? One of my fav producers/live acts ever, Orbital were the peeps resonsible for me gettin into dance/trance music, and IMO they were a pioneer in trance music! Albums like the Green and Brown album were and still are amazing!! Anyone else into em at all? Orbital Website
yeah Orbital are something amazing. their albums dnt ever get tired. The thing thats been on my mind is that we have had great producers like Orbital who are in their own class and "back in the day" there were people similar like Prodigy and Chemical brothers.. who is gunna be looked at as our equivilent of those great producers..?? Fisherspooner and Layo&Bushwacka? or will it be the likes of Ian van Dahl and Flip&Fill..?? if you know what i mean.. hope ya do cos it is alot easier to think that then write it... =0)
heres what i think: Orbital, Prodigy and Chemicals, Underworld too were all unique, they used they re own material at gigs, and each had a very individual sound, i d say now, theres no other outfits like them, i mean we got Lab 4, K90, Opal and a hoard of other people producing and using their own material, but not on the same scale Orbital, Chems, Prodge and Underworld. I personally dont think they ll be equalled for a long time!
Add Leftfield to that list! not many outfits around now who are producers 1st and live acts/DJs 2nd is there?
yeah commercialised dance maybe but they're tunes were like that cos they had a taste of the underground, if u know what i mean. They only got commercialised because ppl saw they could make money out of them. In making money out of them brought them to the masses. In the begninning for these groups they didnt think what would be a catchy stab that will sell loads (well maybe a little but not to the extent of todays producers) their tunes are sill great today and some of the stuff is 15 years old.
Maybe the rest but I don't see how that can be said about Leftfield and Orbital. They had pretty much stopped making 'trance' tracks before it ever became a pop music form.
Thousands of producers had stopped making trance tracks before it became popular - it didn't make them pioneers, leftism wasn't even released till 95.... trance pioneers had been making trance in Goa and Israel years before that - I don't know that much about leftfield but didn't they only really become a name in the mid ninties? As for orbital they commercialised the israeli/goa sound, there were a hundred halycon+on+on's before it - I'm not questioning the greatness of both acts, or even their contribution to dance... Just they weren't the pioneers of trance in my eyes... they just made the trance accesable to the masses...
it's a crazy fucked up world out there, vocals provided by John Lydon, aka Johnny Rotten 1st time I heard it it was wtf is he doing singing on a Leftfield track???? works though, IMO
If I remember correctly most the bands mentioned released 1 or 2 tracks beween 92-94, but this wasn't their best work (in say the prodigy's case) it was their early work... Even though this was early dance music it certainly wasn't that revolutionary.... Leftfield were certainatly the more worthy of the above names, but I still wouldn't label them pioneers, they just made the sound accessable to the massess in 95 with the release of leftism.... (Before leftism they weren't a big name and there were acts which had helped evolve the sound far more than them). On a commercial'ish level Jam and Spoon, Transform, Future Sound of London were making trance 1990-92, which is still considered quality today... These were the first commercial pioneers, but in my eyes the true trance pioneers were around 4 years earlier 1988-92 in Goa and israel: Astral Projection (Avi Nisim, Yaniv Haviv, Third Guy) Har-El Prussky Miko (California Sunshine) Were the true pioneers, they all came about with the introduction of the tb 303 in 1988 after trips to goa and ish.... long before Leftfield... After these came the second wave of trance producers acts like Jam & Spoon, Transform, F S of L, The Orb who fine tuned and tweaked this sound into what we now know as trance... following these came the big acts who opened it up to the masses: leftfield, orbital, the orb (again)... Prodigy, Underworld, Chemicals - certainly weren't pioneers - they were all incredibly good producers who made quite inovative tracks - but the pioneering had already been done - the trance sound had already been established in leftfields case (as had most the other dance genres)... Of course this is all textbook knowledge - the first dance music I heard was on radio1
nah, I meant when I 1st heard it couple years ago. Leftism's one of me fave CDs all time........ now sadly snapped in half when I tried cleaning it with meths while camping in scotland and the plastic went brittle ..... so if anyone wants to buy me a xmas pressie........ and get this for a shopping trip...... fancied some new CDs while back so went into HMV on a browse, never heard leftfield, morcheeba or the chems b4 but saw leftism, big calm and surrender on offer so thought i'd get em and see what they were like......... got em home and fukk me
yeah but my origninal question is what is next..? wat will be the sound of the future..?? alot of people are looking at Fisherspooner but im not convinced.. when we look back who will be look at as the pionners in our opinions..? i look at Mauro showing me the pleasures of the wub wub bass i look at Paul van Dyke and Ferry introducing me the the aural pleasures of trance.. ill never forget standing on the bass speaker listening to Oakenfold playing Beachball for the first time in the Annex @ Cream when i was just a nipper but there are sum i will never for get, landmarks for me. Like the 1998 essential mix from Tall Paul with the Matt Darey version of Binary Finary 1998.. these are some of the things that make me smile when i think about em.. :angel:
