Music vids on Youtube... As of tonight most Music vids will be removed due to licensing agreement issues in the UK, sad sad move imo. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7933565.stm
It's a good, free way of advertising and promoting music. You can watch them for nowt on tv so I don't see the problem.
another own goal by the industry. when will they learn? they always moan about losses from illegal downloads, but I have bought music I have discovered on both Youtube and Pandora and those sales will now be lost. So shortsighted....
no you dont watch them for free, the channel's pay licensing fees. its Youtube they are wanting to charge.. not the public, the same way they charge mtv or bbc.
Ok, I see your point there. We don't pay for it, the tv companies do. But it's still a step in the wrong direction by banning it on youtube altogether. I've bought loads of tracks that I've seen on youtube either on cd or from download sites - mainly Beatport as I seem to have loads of problems with Junodownload crashing etc.. I probably won't be too bothered about more recent stuff, but it's convenient to hunt down rarities at an afters and play them in the background.
its only planned to apply to official music videos.. where the artists / record companies have offical pages or channels. no idea how or if they could police you uploading a track...
I cant see how viewing a low quality video that can't be shared, re-uploaded, ripped/burned on to a CD, or played out anywhere other than through the Youtube channel would affect an artist that much where they'd need paid for it? Illegal DL's I can sympathise with as it has a direct affect on an Artist, this is just greed imo.
It only affects the "official" videos. Live vids, unplugged, home made etc stay in place. So for example, you can see the following as it's a live performance, but you can't go and look at Beyonce's latest vid... [yt]R9ngKpSc3lI&fmt=18[/yt] At the end of the day, the videos are just promotional work to push sales of the song. How many of us go out and buy the music video? Youtube, just like myspace, is a great platform for broadcasting music and film to the world. Look at how much in the way of free advertising artists like Daft Punk have got off the back of their live performances and the videos of people doing that silly thing with their fingers. I love the PRS/RIAA complaining about iTunes, Pandora, Youtube etc ripping them off. if they are that bothered, why not set up their own versions of the above? Oh of course it's easier to cream the money of someone else's infrastructure and hard work. Sometimes I wonder if the music industry is really trying to shoot itself in the foot.
as the ways we listen / watch / purchase / promote / advertise music and music videos changes... so does the way that revenue is generated and collected.. as one form of media (youtube and internet) gets bigger, another like license payments from record shops for playing music instore gets smaller..all they are doing is keeping up with changes.
They're not keeping up with the changes at all though... They're still trying to use the archaic system of "licencing" in order to collect money. They should be working closely with companies like Youtube to reach a solution that suits all involved. Fair enough, youtube made more money, but in all honesty, how much of it is actually from music vids? Without the statistics/analysis in front of them, the PRS don't know, and instead they're trying to dictate a fee based on how much money Google has made? The PRS licencing model in the Youtube case can be summed up below: PRS) "We'd like you to pair some royalty money for the music videos you make money on." Youtube) "Yeah sure, we have an agreement" 1 year later.... PRS) "We saw you made $5.7bn last year, as a result we want you to pay shitloads more money" Youtube) "Fuck off" The PRS approach is equivalent to you paying £1000 for a can of baked beans and £3000 for a bottle of pop in a shop if you won the lottery. It's utter madness. The people who lose out the most at the end of this are those who a) make the music and b) enjoy the music.
But these Official Artist/Label pages knew Youtube was a free service, yet they still willingly created their own pages & uploaded their own videos... now wanting paid for it?
musicians used to get paid for PLAYING music before recordings came along. Then suddenly you could make shedloads of money by selling bits of plastic. Everybody got rich. Huge corporations were formed who think they still have a licence to print money. They can't keep doing it any more when the cost of distribution is effectively zero but they still keep trying. Youtube is a way of promotion not a record shop. Or a way of making music [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tprMEs-zfQA&feature=channel_page"]YouTube- Kutiman-Thru-you - 01 - Mother of All Funk Chords[/ame]
If its official videos Im not really bothered as I never watch them anyway, its mainly live performances I watch.
There's not just the PRS involved tho, you have the likes of MCPS,VPL,PPL & also PRS and these all want there little slice of the cake and not to forgot the artist to. Music industry in this country is fucked out of complete & utter greed if anyone of those gouverning bodys thinks or knows your making money off the back of it they tend to fuck you over good & proper.....(speaking from experiance)
