Is 'Vocal Trance' Bad for the scene?

Vocal trance done well can be amazing (Way Out West - Mindcircus), done badly it is well and truly offensive (Most things that litter the top40 week in week out)

i think vocal trance is great, but when twats do radio edits of tune which has the vocal going all the way thru the song it sounds a load of shite and cheesy i cringe everytime i hear the oceanlab- satellite on the radio because of it

Vocal trance is okay, it is europop trance that is pap.

old age son. I'm the same - i used to love vocal trance - but now it's starting to sound all 'kelly lorena' or whatever she's called. Making it the main focus of the song seems wrong... at most it needs to be 50/50 with a decent hook. But what seems to work best recently is a lush trance track with a few select vocals at key times to lift it.

4 verses and 8 repeats of the chorus just make it sound 'Galaxy FM'!!

agreed

oceanlab! trance-tastic cheeze at its best!

A full set of vocal tunes a big no but the odd decent vocal tune in a set always sounds sweet.

Never have been a vocal fan. But put a litle vocal in a trance tune and it is still good. Such as Jurgen Vries - Take My Hand brillaint tune put the vocals have ruined the poor thing Still I will be buying it this week

its the cheap production line shite in the charts that spoils it, since most people who arnt into the scene see that as 'Trance'

i think theres a fine line between good and bad vocal trance though.

and rammed down your throat night and day for atleast a year from when it first surfaces in a club to it limping to number 3 or 4 in the 'pop' charts.

Everyone loved motorcycle when it first came around... now it's a dirty swear word...

vocal trance if its dun rite is the bestest thing in the whole wide world, the shite thats inthe charts is hardly "vocal trance", its jsut cheesy dance shit with a crap vocal over the top but "propa" vocal trance is excellent when incorporated into sets in the rite places and not too much....
personally particular vocal trance tunes sumtimes make trance nites what they are cos everyone always remembers when a certain tune with the "sing-a-long" factor gets played during a nite out and as cheesy as it may be its always dead luvli to have those hands in the air sing-a-long luvved up moments when a class vocal trance tune gets played!!!
so in answer to the original question, there aint a chance its bad for the scene, just makes it betta IMO although it has to be dun rite!! and the tunes hav to be v.carefully selected but a lot of the shit these days doesnt even deserve to be called vocal trance IMO... xxx

true!!!, i love vocal trancers when there made properley!!!

silence for instance is still and always will be one of the greatest vocal trancers ever!!! and still gets the hairs on the back of me neck standing up!!!

but jurgen vries etc are just shite!!!

Exactly, although vocal prog-trance is better than vocal trance altogether.
Every so often the vocal trance argument comes up for the simple reason that there aint been a good vocal trance tune for a while and then a few good vocal tunes come along at once.

darren tate is a musical genius!!!!! :evil: !!!
some of his productions are admittidley canny cheesy BUT he is dead talented and all the productions under the jurgen vries production name are dead happy and they're just class!!! :groovy: xxxx

i agree that he's a talented proucer and i like 'darren tate' productions, but when he produces under 'jurgen vries' he tends to make cheese, which i dont like!!!

it does what it has to, radio plays etc and it gets people buying it!!!, but imo i like good music and sadly alot of it just aint!!!

First lovers tiff maybe?

Wait til u here his views on Judge Jules Rachel


this is a joke by the way

Naaa vocal trance is awesome.

But there is a load of shite that wrongly (probably?) gets labelled as vocal trance in the charts.........thats when it gets spoiled usually...cos it gets HAMMERED and u get sick to death of hearing it.

Done properly, its awesome, "cheesed up" and comemrcialised....tis bad