Hamza is a Brit

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  1. S.E.C.T.

    S.E.C.T. Kiss My Face

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    Hamza is a Brit

    Just read this on the bbc...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11701262

    I cant believe we even funded this appeal and to make it worse, overturned the original decision. The man is clearly a cunt. I'd like to give the people involved in this a proper booting. Fuck human rights...boils my piss :down:
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    I don't understand how he can be stripped of his egyptian citizenship when he was born there?

    I also don't understand how it also means he can't be stripped of his british citizenship (even though he clearly doesn't deserve it).

    Words fail me on this one...
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    S.E.C.T. Kiss My Face

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    The Egyptians saw an opportunity and took it - now we are stuck with the prick
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    we live in a country where the law is the law. Whoever you are. Beware of wishing that away. Hamza may be a cunt but he has the same rights as anyone else. To disregard the law and do whatever the state likes with him makes us no better than him. It may be a pain in the arse but it's better than living somewhere (like Egypt) where ministers can decide to do something to you and it happens regardless of justice or your rights as a human being.
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    What an absolute load of bollocks ^^

    I don't think the point here is that were wishing away our laws to become the next somalia?

    A Terrorist is moaning because he is about to be left 'Citizenless' after being stripped of his Native Egyptian citizenship, fucking boo hoo?

    He was jailed for inciting murder and hate in a Country where he agree's with non of our principles/ways of life.

    Spare me the braided hair & thai die T-shirt response, the cunt does not deserve to become a British Citizen - HUMAN or HOOK.
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    he IS a British citizen you tit. And so subject to British laws. All of them, not just the ones you like.

    "I don't think the point here is that were wishing away our laws to become the next somalia? " -- That is exactly the point. If you wish to change the law so that British citizens can be deported to other countries where they can expect cruel or degrading treatment then you are a fool. One day they might organise a hate campaign in the press for Gary Proud followed by a swift deportation to somewhere you wouldn't like to go based on the say so of Theresa May.
    He was jailed after being found guilty of breaking the law. That is how the system operates - you have a trial you get found guilty, you get sentenced according to law.
    are we to have a system where the only people allowed to be British citizens are those approved by Gary Proud?
    I'll stick with things as they are thanks very much.
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    What fucking planet do you live on man?

    I'm not living in a Country I hate, preaching murder? on what grounds could you ever possibly have me deported on a whim... or any other law abiding British Citizen for that matter?

    Hamza WAS an egyptian citizen, stripped of that, then due to our lax open door policy he was then given a British passport (which isn't a god given right down here on planet earth). He abused those privileges and was jailed for being a terrorist. As a Country we must own the right to review certain cases like this and have the power to revoke these privileges?

    The man has no intentions of wanting to be a 'British Citizen' and everything that comes with it, he wants the status to enable him to shaft us AGAIN to avoid being extradited to the US as he knows he wont get away with half the shit he has done with us, the US simply wont stand for it.
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    There's a bit more to it than that - he married and settled over here, and gained dual citizenship after this. Regarding Proudy's point about our "open door policy", when he settled here originally he wasn't an islamic extremist - he became one much later on. He was just a womanizing doorman to begin with.

    He won't get extradited to the US as the UK government can't extradite him to a country where he could face the death penalty or inhumane treatment.

    I suspect the reason the Egyptians stripped him of it (if they did, I can't find confirmation of it anywhere) is because he would still be considered a British citizen, hence they could get away with dusting their hands of him. Egyptian law says an Egyptian citizen cannot acquire foreign citizenship without permission and could potentially then lose their citizenship.

    I still think he should have been stripped of his UK passport as well - it doesn't look like it's over by any stretch of the imagination so that may still happen anyway. At least he's still in prison serving time for his crimes regardless of what happens.
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    Regardless of what circumstances he was granted citizenship under, he is a Foreign national. He wasn't born here, wasn't educated here and previous employment hasn't exactly seen him contribute to society. He has abused our system & incited murder on the streets of London. Folk branding him a British Citizen need to take a long hard look at themselves, personally it makes my skin crawl.

    We should have every right to revoke his citizenship & the privileges that come with it.
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    Even though I believe Proudy is probably Hamzas son I strongly agree with his opinion here.
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    They should just freeze the scum cunt and use him as a coat hanger in the foyer of 10 Downing Street.
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    He stopped operating as a British Citizen the moment he began inciting racial hatred towards the UK.

    As an immigrant, the government should be allowed to remove his British Citizenship in the same way they awarded it in the first place. This must have been granted based on his agreement to comply with the laws of the land - surely what he has been promoting is treason, hence, boot the cunt out
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    Doesn't seem that way. Anyway, Forks is just pointing out the obvious isn't he?

    1. The law found him to be a British citizen
    2. The government have to abide the law (in such blatant circumstances)

    They'll probably just get him at a protest or something, or knock him off in a whitewashed suicide attempt.
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    "I'm not living in a Country I hate, preaching murder? on what grounds could you ever possibly have me deported on a whim... or any other law abiding British Citizen for that matter? "
    You are confusing two things - British Citizenship and compliance with the law. All I'm trying to point out is that we all have to be subject to the same laws. Hamza is in jail for his crimes. That is as it should be. That is the law working. Once you decide that someone is so unpleasant that he can be stripped of his Citizenship without due process of law then you are entering a tyrany. We all live by the same laws whether you are Hamza or the prime minister. If that is allowed to break down because we don't like what someone says, then our freedoms go with it.
    I am not denying that Hamza is a loathsome individual but unless he is treated correctly according to law, we are no better than him.
    And it is not the case that anyone inciting racial hatred loses their citizenship, just their liberty, after a fair trial.

    "They should just freeze the scum cunt and use him as a coat hanger in the foyer of 10 Downing Street."

    That's how regimes like Burma operate. It's so easy to get on your high horse of righteous indignation and come out with mindless crap like that. If I thought I was living in a country where opponents of the regime could be treated like that I would be afraid. So would you Willa.
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    Come on now. This man was not born here - he was given citizenship on the basis that he wanted to live here and he would do so lawfully. He has not complied with this agreement so he has put himself in the situation where the government can strip him of his citizenship and send back to where he came from.

    Remember the only reason that this has not happened because his homeland, Egypt, already realised he was a nob and got there first.

    Enough of the tree hugging hippy shit
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    If you think that the rule of law is only for tree hugging hippies (whoever they are, this is 2010 not 1970) you are dense.
    He was not given citizenship on that basis. He was given citizenship full stop. Have you never broken a law? Do you think that you should be stripped of your citizenship? What's to stop that happening to you? The law wouldn't allow it. That's the only reason. I don't know why you think your rights are so unimportant that you would throw them away in order to inflict some more pain on someone whose views you disagree with. From the other side of that coin Technofish has views which incite racial hatred. Should he have his citizenship removed? Think a bit before you spout this crap
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    Not exactly accurate - they stripped him of his citizenship because he applied for British citizenship without seeking their permission first (thats the only grounds that appear to exist for it in Egyptian law).

    Of course, noone's been able to confirm if the Egyptians have revoked his passport or not, it's just all legal arguments at this stage... He's not been back to Egypt since the early 1980s so it's not like his current Egyptian passport will be in date, or that he'll know for definite.
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    My point was was that as a Country who allow foreign nationals to become British Citizens under any circumstances should be able to do so on the basis that we also own the power to review and remove such statuses/privileges in particular cases.

    Were not exactly trying to execute the 'Final Solution' throughout the UK....
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    this :up:

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