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    ManofScience, Feb 12, 2008
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  3. Phil Mitchell

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    ISP's will lose a lot of money because people will no longer have the need to have unlimited packages and will go for the lowend packages. Therefore the cost to access the internet will go up which is exactly the opposite of the governments intentions when they launched the Broadband Rollout initiative.

    Labour does it again :dunce:
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    Its unlikely this will ever prove to be a workable system. There's already resistance to it in other countries, ISPs are regarded as common carriers and therefore not responsible for the actions of their customers. This proposed law is the equivalent of suing BMW because someone got busted carrying coke in one.

    If it ever happened, encryption will become the norm and P2P traffic would become unreadable, making this legislation useless.

    The record industry and film industry are fighting a losing battle in my opinion - they've had a chokehold on the artists and their customers for too long, they are too slow to adapt to the business model the internet has dropped upon them. The future is that of sites that offer material from artists themselves, with no record companies, little in the way of costs, and the artist getting the majority of the money for their own work instead of the record company creaming off everything and ripping of everyone.

    viva la revolution.
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    still, if it's breaking the law AND they have means of detecting it, then the legislation will MAKE them act on it

    i definately think encrypted P2P's will come in BUT again if the ISP's only have to have suspicion you're up to something - i suppose you'd have to prove it was something else u downloaded...


    i'm not sure how it will work, but it's more ways they're turning into fascits.
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    :eek:
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    to be honest there's already terms and conditions in most peoples ISP agreements that cover this - it's not acted upon for the very reasons dino quick brought up - they'd lose customers.

    Instead of chasing their customers with lawsuits the record industry needs to give people what it wants - good music, cheaply (with the record company taking far less of the profit) and with no DRM strings attached.

    If they don't, the future lies in artists producing their own stuff and selling it directly to their fans, without any record companies involved.
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    So should the royal mail intercept and monitor general post in order to catch illegal activities?
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    sshhhhhh 'they' mighyt be reading this.

    if there's a green paper about this in the next year or so - i'll tell everyone it was your idea :p
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    :lol: :D
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    and what they do is put information onto bits of plastic. the information costs a bit of studio time and some tiny royalties to the musicians ( if they are lucky) and the plastic costs pence. then they sell the plastic for a massive markup. how hard can it be? I hope they all go bust tomorrow robbing cunts
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    The days of having music primarily on cd are long gone. What's to say they're not going to disappear like cassettes within the next 5 years? As long as people have the internet, and an artist has the means to produce some music then it's not going to be hard for them to sort it out for themselves.
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    i think the newer kids to the industry need to learn that the age of musicians making massive money may be a thing of the past in the not so distant future. mabey the greed alone thrives on many of todays artists (e.g 'pop' artists)

    even if they say they arent in it for the money they fucking well are. especially the RnB lot. fucking bollocks the lot of it, and despite that, they make a fucking Hod of cash for being faux g-staz blingin about like fucking rejects - singing about getting pissed and necking on with a lass, ho's and clubs.

    however, i like the rap stuff which tends to be alot more deeper/skillfull/less profitable.

    regardless tho, it needs wiping out.

    mabey it can be a new era for music production, almost like taking a step back from profits - because it has to.
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    what a load of stoned bollocks that is :lol:
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    Its not really from record sales etc that bands make money from anyway really, its all in the tours and merchandise which like marty says is organised by the record companies.
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    I don't mind writers and producers and performers doing well. but the people who make the real bucks are the shareholders and executives of the parasitic companies who feed off them
    sorry . bit of extra ranting there.
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    tours and merchandise are nearly always organised by the bands management, not the record companies. that's why they don't get the profit from them ( the companies that is)
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    oh whey, fuck the record fatcats then.

    download away people, download away!!!
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    Making an excellent pop song requires just as much skill as making a techno masterpiece.
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    yeah but the techno masterpeice wont even come close to being as annoying and bland as a pop record.
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    On the whole, the people who download all their music are usually the ones who listen to loads of throwaway guff that really doesnt have any value anyway.

    If you like a bit of music enough then just pay for it, makes it much more enjoyable to listen to aswell.
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