CRB Checks

CRB Checks

If a company requires you to have a CRB check before they'll employ you, what does the check look for? Does it bring up details of a formal caution (taken to the station etc but not taken to court)?

Yeh it brings everything up m8, accept Fixed penalty fines. cautions remain on your record for up2 6 years, allow they may say different.

If uve ever been nicked and took to the station nd givin a caution they'll show up. But it's minor a doubt it wud cause any problems.

Fixed penalty fines dont show up at all

It's actually an Enhanced Disclosure form that I'd need to fill in.

I don't know if there's any point in me even trying though because although it was a caution I received, it was for class A's :evil: Sounds a lot worse than it is especially to someone who for example, has never been properly clubbing or is a straight edge tosser.

PMs mate

enhanced disclosure shows up everything including cautions. I don't know if that 6 years thing is true since cautions remain on your record forever.
It was brought in as a measure to stop paedophiles getting work with children but in typical fashion it is now used increasingly by employers to weed out (no pun intended) 'undesirables'

I've done workshops with kids in the past but no more I guess since my caution for possession, even though it has no bearing whatever on my work with kids, it will mean schools won't employ me any more.

by the way companies can only ask for a CRB check if you will be working with children

No they can't.. I worked for a security company in the Marketing department and had to have a 10 year CRB check done!!

I have to put through CRB checks as part of my job and the main things that we look for are things like i.e. Rape, Assault, Burglary, Theft, Drugs.

I was checked myself and i had class a's on my record but i just gave them the old sob story and said i'd got in with a bad bunch and it was a bad time in my life.

I think I was lucky to get in and it really depends on the person dealling with your application.

The main things they will look for are how long ago was it and how serious was the charge, for a caution it could have been 4 years ago and for 1 pill, they'll never know as all it says on your record is possession of class a's. This is how i got away with it.

Good luck

i've asked this before - there doesn't seem to be a clear answer from anyone.

i have a caution from 13 years ago and i always wondered if that would show up but at the time i was told it was only relevant for 5 years - whatever that means.

i came to the conclusion that it WOULD show up BUT they're only looking for issues that may effect you working with children - it up to you to decide whether they would then use some random caution as a reason not to employ you - but they'd never be able to own up to it


FAQ from the CRB website http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=289&qid=4907

A lot of it comes down to making a decision based on what i said in the last post about how long ago the offence was and what the offence was, the amount of people who have cautions for this kind of thing now is massive.

Most companies will ask you to sign a declaration and on that you will give details of anything that may show up on the CRB. At this point if your truthful anything you put down can be sorted there and then, and you can get the old sob story out and i'd say most employers would be ok as if you are at CRB stage they are already ready to give you the job anyway and this is one of the final loose ends to tie up.

If you lie on the declaration and it comes back with offences then you've dug your own grave.

I think that enhanced disclosure covers all your record and anything else the police 'may regard as relevant'
standard disclosure covers your record not including 'spent' convictions

there is a list of those jobs that an enhanced disclosure can be asked for but since it's up to the employer to verify that the check is for one of those jobs then there is widespread abuse of the system. It is supposed to be for those jobs like teacher or social worker where the person might be in a position of trust with children or vulnerable adults or for national security .Interestingly though one of those jobs is taxi driver.

If you think that the prospective employer has no right to ask for an enhanced check you are in a very weak position as refusal looks like you have something to hide

Bad bunch eh?

lie on what? job application or some CRB permission form?

i never say anything on my job apps, as it says 'criminal convictions' - and cautions aren't

With the CRB a company would usually give you a CRB declaration form to go with it, this is the companies own form which would go in your HR file.

It gives you the chance to admit to any offences that may come back on the CRB, they cost £20 for a basic CRB to process so in some cases if you get the declaration back and what you find is unacceptable you would terminate offer of employment and not bother sending CRB to be processed.

On the other hand if the employer accepts what you have said in the declaration and sends off the CRB, if it comes back as they have stated in declaration then everyones happy and you've still got the job.

Well u know them, they are a bad bunch

As far as I'm aware it can be jobs that involve you being responsible for the heath of people too.. IE working with old people, disable people, teaching some sports...

Also, I read that cautions were for 10 years but it's not an automatic system where all records >10 years are purged. It's a manual process and because of that a lot of records don't get deleted.

there's confusion because the old rehabilitation of offenders act set time limits for how long things stayed on your record but under the CRB system they never come off

I work for an airline and I get CRB checked as far as I'm aware.

i am startin work for the royal mail soon and they do crb's but the last time i worked for them and they done one they never said anythin about when i got caught a couple of times with class's A.B and C haha

how long does a repromand last?
i got one when i was 17