Capital punishment..

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  1. Alun

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    Lucien Fraud Got one now havent a

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    opening a can of worms.

    i personally can see no reason for bringing the death penalty back. far too many opportunities for mistakes and innocent people being executed.

    although if those lads were maimed in prison i would have no objection.
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    Det Supt Barbara Franklin, who led the inquiry, also believed alcohol was a factor.

    She said: "It's up to retailers to make sure it's sold responsibly, it's up to parents to take responsibility for what their children get up to outside the home.


    Why do everyone but the people who did it get the blame? How the fuck are there parents meant to watch them 24/7, they were old enough not have to be watched.

    and why the fuck do people keep blaming "cheap alcohol" when owt bad happens. It doesn't matter if a bottle of vodka costs £6 or £10. They'll still buy the fucker and down it regardless.:spangled:
  5. ManofScience

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    i too used to believe it should be brought back - but i've recently been convinced when can u be sure 100% there won't be any mistakes?

    maybe 1 or 2 mistakes are for the greater good. prison shouldn't be like butlins though, fuck their human rights - it should be HELL
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    You can't be 100% sure but some poor sod might spend all his life behind bars when he's innocent. But that doesn't mean we should stop sending people to prison just incase.
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    but the difference is that you can let them out of prison if its found out a mistake has been made.
    And no-one has the right to take any one else's life away. for whatever reason.
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    Alun bouncy bouncy

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    should make our prisons like russian gulags... or give them hard labour.. breaking big fucking rocks for no apparent reason 12 hours a day 7 days a week... coz the thing is.. these fuckers... and others like them... will come out of jail.. still pretty much in the prime of life... a better criminal... and probably a lot more clever.. coz they'll probably all do degrees or something... all courtesy of the very generous british tax payer!!
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    In that case no one has the right to put someone behind bars for some law that some bloke made up years ago.
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    What if they're innocent and they have to go through being treated badly?
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    Alun bouncy bouncy

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    compensation?? i dunno really.. but for every 1 they get wrong, there are 1000s they get right... give or take.. maybe if sentences were harsher.. it might act as a deterrent!
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    How the fuck is alcohol to blame and why should retailers or parents be brought into the equation? It pisses me off when people try to find an excuse for theirs or others behaviour and alcohol and drugs are always the scapegoat. Its all about self control and although they're quite young they obviously havent got any.

    This aggrevates me beyond belief:

    "But we are disappointed that the judge did not mention the fact that Mr Martin was clearly targeted because he was disabled and that his horrific murder was aggravated by hatred towards his impairment.

    "Murders motivated by homophobia and racism often attract far stiffer sentences. All such horrific crimes must be treated equally by the criminal justice system."

    If anything killing a disabled and defenseless man is one of the most cowardly ways of commiting a murder and should carry the stiffer sentences.

    Capital punishment in my eyes is hypocritical but i hope they get hell when they go to prison.
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    Tell that to Forks.
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    yeah as discussed loosly in:

    http://www.nucastle.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70282

    its bad crack of course that any group or any given individual could do this to someone, its a shame that society can stoop down to this level of brutality.

    however, blaming the fact that cheap alcohol was a main factor within the inquiry is a shameless way of bypassing the internal dis-function of sunderland's misguided youth spectrum. blagging an excuse like "here well, vodka down the roads only 6 quid a litre, we obviously must gan bits on it and murder some-one for a bet... hew"

    my question is, what kind of vodka is it - and what shop? the only litres of vodka for 6 quid is that stupid 22% "vodka flavoured spirit drink" thats basically just vermouth with a bit turps in.

    people can probably argue aptly that it's the press creating demons out of nothing - mass media panic over something thats been there all along. But for it to be shown as a catalyst for murder is another matter completely.

    Alcohol does make people agressive and tbf if they did drink a litre between them, it probably did fuel the attack. alcohol is a depressant and has a tendancy of making certain people rowdy and angry, but its been in circulation so long and SO much tax coin is made by it. But at the same time a HUGE majority of people who drink dont start fights, and are generally just annoying and loud (like me).

    the whole debate (if there is one) could even stumble upon the question of "what if they boys hadnt been drinking - but had been smoking cannabis? would they have still done it then?" and then a can opens somewhere in the room - worms fly everwhere and rossy flies in to support the legalise drugs arguement, with stats and charts and everything.

    personal rhetoric is class.
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    Probably not because they'll be in prison with other people who have done similar crimes. It's only usually the high profile paedo's and that which are targeted by inmates.
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    eh i've just realised this thread isnt about the above mentioned rant.

    i think it might be a good idea bringing it back - keeping murderers on their toes and that, although i think hanging's a bit outdated
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    Hanging is shit like. Proper inefficient way of killing. Id personally opt for one of the folllowing;

    Lethal Injection
    Gas chamber

    I wouldn't mind seeing an updated version of the guilletine in action aswell. Cutting off someones head has always been a good way of killing someone.
  18. Dan

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    Well there'll be a lot of nasty people waiting for them either way.
  19. Dan

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    Theres no good way of killing full stop Pete!
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    Prisoners should have to do stuff like run on treadmills to power the lights in there rooms.
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    Oasis Peter North-east

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    I dunno about that like!

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