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    Pretty much sums up the most logical reason to legalise all drugs. How can you make chemicals illegal and ban people from putting them into their own bodies?
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    amazing that it appeared on a right wing website though
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    With that strange logic, we shouldn't have any legal protection at all.

    Weed should remain illegal IMO.

    (any factual source for that cheesy 'story' btw?)
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    I think that strange logic would be the thought that the government offers "legal protection" to people who involve themselves with drugs.

    prohibition is not what I'd call a government protecting its citizens.
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    no. I checked. looks like it's just a story and yes it's written in a folksy hokum style but the point it makes is an interesting one.

    i do find it hard to take anyone serious who still believes that weed should be criminal though, but I guess you can have whatever potty opinion you like. It's a free country. or not.
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    i lived with a guy who went off his rocker on weed. it was pretty scary seeing someone change so dramatically. i know people back home who are different people when they're smoking heavily.
    tbh i couldnt give a shit whether its illegal or not... if i want it its not too hard to get, im not gonna lose any sleep. but i've yet to see a really convincing argument for legalisation. i dont think it should be criminal but im not too keen for legalisation... i think im contadicting myself on this subject anyway. :lol:
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    well I don't use it because it doesn't do anything I want from a recreational drug. That said it is used by millions and has been for hundreds of years and if people want to do it it should be legal, licensed, quality controlled, taxed and kept away from kids. IMO
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    My thoughts exactly, cant get away with the stuff me. Give me pills and powder over herb anyday :king:
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    if its in you its in you when on any drug 2bf

    I agree with that
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    i've said the same before, some people are just shit at certain drugs and should stay away, whether its weed, pills, alcohol etc
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    Why legalise it?

    it would just turn us into a generation of computer game playing lazy bastards with no patter


    actually, hangon.........
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    All law is a form of prohibition, whether it be prohibiting people from shooting up a school or prohibiting people from drink driving, and is formed for the precise purpose of protecting its citizens.

    It is beyond any doubt that weed leads to severe health problems. I know this first hand as my best friends brother has been in a mental institution in Manchester for the last 4 years due to habitual use and will never be able to live outside of assisted care again, which has in turn torn their family apart.

    It's all very well saying booze does the same, but it's not the booze itself that does the damage, it's the addiction to it - the damage from weed is from the plant itself.
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    I have sympathy for your friends brother but the fact is that it affects us all differently.

    And I think you'll find drink causes liver failure and a bunch of other horrible deaths.

    Whereas "the plant itself" has multiple uses in many countries ie Hemp Cloth not just a method to get high.
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    I'm sorry for your friend and his family but are the causes of mental breakdown so clear cut?.
    It could be that people who have a propensity to smoke also have the type of personality which lead to breakdowns. There are loads more people who are mentally ill who never smoked than those who did.
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    thats a fair point, but its the biggest stumbling block i have with the legalisation campaign... you cant legalise something just because it may or may not be less harmful than alcohol. im not saying its the sole argument, but it always seems to be put forward.
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    it's not about alcohol . It's not even about whether its harmful. It's about freedom innit.
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    Of course that's the purpose of law, but drug laws destroy the very people they are there to protect.

    I can't quite grasp your last point, the both can be dangerous with long term/heavy use, regardless of addiction. Forks nailed it with the last post. I can take care of myself and I don't need opressive governments trying to protect me (at risk of locking me up) thankyou very much.
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    which will do you the most harm - a joint a day for 6 months or 6 months in jail?
    which would do more harm - banning alcohol and handing over control of manufacture and supply to gangsters? or controlling the sale of it by the government?
    Why have we turned over the manufacture and supply of a reletively safe drug like mdma to them?
    none of it makes any sense

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