300,000 illegals live here

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  1. Harper

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    300,000 illegals live here

    A MASSIVE 300,000 failed asylum seekers are living in Britain permanently, shock figures showed last night.

    An army the size of the population of Newcastle has slipped the net since Labour came to power.

    The hidden illegals have been told they CAN’T stay — but have NEVER been booted out.

    They have exhausted the costly appeals process but no one has sent them packing.

    The figures are a huge embarrassment to Tony Blair.

    They come just days after it was revealed cop killer Kamel Bourgass was a failed asylum seeker.

    The revelation underlines claims the asylum system is a massive security risk.

    Independent researchers at MigrationWatch UK have used Home Office figures to establish the number of failed asylum seekers.

    Around 250,000 individuals have had claims rejected. Wives, children and families take the total to 300,000.

    Around 50,000 have been allowed to stay under the 2003 amnesty by ministers desperate to get a grip on the crisis.

    But the rest are free to roam without paying a penny in tax or national insurance.

    Most work in the black economy and use overstretched services like the NHS.
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    I absolutely could not give a shit.
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    I'm proud, you've moved from quoting the BNP's website to the Sun's. ;)

    The people who wrote the report do speak sence when you remove the tabloid style of the sun's piece.....



    The United Kingdom, and particularly England, is one of the most densely populated countries in the world. This puts enormous strains on our infrastructure and our resources - particularly land. It has implications for house prices and rentals, transport, energy consumption, water usage and the environment and consequently on the quality of all our lives.

    In these circumstances we believe it is not sensible to add to an already growing population by encouraging massive levels of migration to the UK . Instead we think we should pursue a policy of balanced migration. Such a policy would allow us to welcome genuine refugees and highly skilled migrants into the UK but only to the extent that they replace British emigrants - thus having little or no impact on the UK's overall population.

    MigrationwatchUK believes that there are clear benefits to be gained from limited immigration and from our own citizens being able to live and work overseas. Freedom of movement of people between countries at similar levels of other developed nations generally results in balanced migration flows and we welcome the existing arrangements within the European Union and advocate an extension of these arrangements to the development nations such as Japan.

    However, freedom of movement of people between less-developed countries and the UK would inevitably lead to massive, and unsustainable, migration into the UK . We believe, however, that there is great benefit in welcoming citizens of these developing countries to the UK on a temporary basis - for example to study or to gain professional experience - provided that there is proper monitoring of their departure.

    Proper management of migration flows requires:
    • robust border controls to prevent unauthorised entry to the UK
    • systems that allow us to know who has entered the UK and why and to be able to take action when visas have expired.
    • benefit systems which clearly define entitlements and which allow access only to those who are entitled.
    • immigration policies and procedures which are firmly under the authority of the UK Parliament and which are understood and accepted by the British people.

    We believe that it is only by having a robust and well-managed immigration system that genuine immigrants (and genuine asylum seekers) will be welcomed into the UK . This is also an essential
    pre-requisite for good community relations.

    Conversely, continued failure by the government to get a grip of these problems, and failure by the centre ground even to address them, will leave the field wide open to extremists.
    2 March 2004
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    Why post then?
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    Because there is no correlation between whether I care about the number of illegal immigrants over here and making a post on an internet message board.
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    yeah they do speak a lot of sense. I think Labour are scared of the issue, they will not come out and speak about it.
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    if you dont care just ignore it then, its not hard. Or do you really care but your just being a arsehole.
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    As it stands, the police take the letter to asylum seekers telling them their application has failed at about 5 or 6 in the morning, then deport them without any warning.

    Exactly what else do you want them to do?
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    yeh forgot 2 add the other 1 million odd like uk gettin took over
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    as oppose to the conservatives who take a single isolated incident and try and use it as a stereotype for whats happening in the whole country... :rolleyes:
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    There claim could be made from the country there coming from, then if it is unsuccesful we dont need to try and find them and deport them.
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    the conservatives have some good ideas on how to handle the issue.
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    No it couldn't, the whole point is that these people are facing death/persecution/torture in their own country, so they can't really afford to be hanging round.

    Unless they can prove that it really isn't safe for them to go back, they get deported.

    85% of asylum applications fail, in case you were wondering.
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    And I'm sorry, but that's bollocks as well.

    They want to impose limits on the numbers of immigrants - lets say 10000.

    So lets say number 10001 turns up, he's a qualified doctor who's mentioned the wrong name in a speech and now faces torture and imprisonment. So we turn him away. Nice one.
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    nothing wrong with setting limits, that way we only get the people over who can benefit our country. Its just common sense to want the the best people over to settle here. The country cannot go on just letting people in and them going missing when they dont get there claims accepted.
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    :bang: I've just given you an example of how setting limits could stop exactly the people you want to see benefitting our country coming in

    We've signed up to internation law that means that we have to accept people who are being persecuted abroad - not just people we think can benefit our country. And how do you mean the 'best' people? Why do you think doctors and solicitors abroad would want to leave their countries, their families, their money to come here and live on £37 a week? Surely this tells you something about the threat they must be under in their original countries? Also, a lot of migrant workers do some of the worst jobs essential to the running of the UK, that UK citizens don't want to do.

    I've already explained that they system's been tightened up on this front. And don't worry - you're not paying benefits for people who've had their applications turned down.

    I simply can't understand why you have such a problem with asylum seekers. Do you object as strongly to paying benefits to UK citizens who can't be arsed to get a job?
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    Wow, that's really interesting.

    Truly.
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    It could be a mixture of both really. On one hand I don't care on the other I think you're a cock.

    Summary: I don't want to read your boring bleatings/don't give a shit.
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    I'm glad I made your day.
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