clubbing as a whole dead or alive

clubbing as a whole dead or alive

been noticeing alot over the last year that the scene that we all love has not moved on in any genre it has been the same ,

what is all ya opinions on this have i been asleep are is this true

trance is dying, mainly because new trance is utter shit and much of it sounds samey and bland... the atmosphere in most of the clubs is no longer there or at least nothing compared to what it used to be and id think most people that have been clubbing for a fair few years would agree...

most trance clubs are failing to innovate, with exception namely godskitchen which seems to be varying its lineups...

having said this, when trance is done well its excellent, but 9/10 times its just plain gash... i wouldnt know more than 2 tunes in promise if i walked in now..

the only trance i like now is cheesy vocal trance, ie oceanlab/ 4 strings

having said all that, things change, a few years ago people said the whole indie scene was on its knees, now its the absolute opposite...

to be fair promise has done well to be around for four years when so many others have gone to the wall... but i cant help feeling how long trance like this can keep pulling the crowds for? ts a shame, but i think trance will remain in the doldrums for a good few years yet..

as for house.. the last 4 times ive been to shindig and the last time i went to nice they were either on capacity or near... id say house is still alive and kicking because it allows djs more flexibility whereas trance and hh is pretty much confined to a few different syles..

the likes of breaks, d+b and techno will always have a hardcore following pretty much no matter what...

Well said!

Agree 100%

I've never heard decent HH for a few years. Sundis at it's peak was awesome, bouncy HH was just plain fun! Dunno if it just went too hard & dirty and put a lot of people off. I like the dirty HH sound, but can't listen to it all night, just gets repetitititititititive.

"Hardstyle" is just piss poor, neither one thing or the other. Think it has blurred the boundary between HH and hard trance, the two styles kind of run into eachother now.

People like the Tidy Boys haven't helped either, their sets sounded like kiddie HH, turned HH into pop music almost.

I don't think you see the variety of DJs on tour there used to be, would love to see people like Nick Rafferty, Strange Dave etc playing more gigs. I think HH needs someone to grab it by the balls & take it back to what it was again instead of this piss poor watered down shite that you're hearing now...

I think even gods are struggling.

i agree it's in a recovery period. the 'clubbers' have back lashed against the force-fed super club bullshit we've had to endure for the last 4 or 5 years - especially here in the UK... build it up when it's cool and underground - knock it as soon as it get commercial and uncool - it's they way we brits do things!

Trance, in it's forms, has been around since the conception of dance music - it just changes, sometimes popular and mainstream, others underground and quirky. back in the mid 90's house was on it's arse - compliation after compliation of shite and over exposure and trance was loved by all... things change!

"Clubbing is dead" and "Asylum Seekers" all in one week.

must try harder!!!

yeah, maybe the same old threads, but as Rob once pointed out, this coming from you with such classics as...

"wanted plumber"
"anyone got any old furniture?"

nit picker.... i was talking in general terms

Wipe me fucking dry

I have wanted to see Lawrence for ages, since his Ess Mix actually and along with Hardwick / Halliwell thats gonna be a fucking class night

Get the fuck in

That lineups unreal like!

OHHHHHhhhhhhhhh "Las Rob once pointed out" Its easy to see whos the giver in that relationship

The Butt Kissers Union has new MEMBER!!!

Well done!!

i'm old enough to be his dad.....sshhheesshhhh

Scotty i think this statement is aimed at you!!! Hehehehehe.

Still Mark i don't think it is what everyone wants but again not everyone can be pleased.

Derek, going back to the orignal statement clubbing is naff, up here at least. Again based on what I like its died up here. There are a few good nights down in Brum like @ Subway city, would be nice to have at least one HH line-up every other month up here.

:angel2:

I'd rather Promise be monthly + b/hols. Its more likely to fill the club and give everyone a better night - maybe it will build from there??? Hardwick/Lawrence/Halliwell is a must - good effort

canny lineups , shame it seems promise hard will be out the window for a while tho !


..fidds..

Personally i think its due to the slight change in style. I found Promise was going a little too 'hard' for my liking, thankfully it all changed in the last 12 months.

Its been a great year in terms of the DJs we've had up here:

Above & Beyond, Thrillseekers, Gabriel & Dresden, Ferry returning
plus the regulars like Mr Hardwick. Its been a great year I think

As for the scene - its alive and kicking i reckon

Cracking line up for February!

Well said. The more people that go down the 'clubbing is dead route...', the more it will. Focus on the good side and get more people interested in it. I blame the music press for trying to kill the scene off - and threads like this don't help.