Should the cane/beating be reintroduced at school?

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yeah, scallies breed scallies...

was meaning that bad parenting is the prob more than corporal punishment...

an some peeps who are beaten from a young age simply believe that this is the way that life is...

and become aggressive in situations where most 'normal' (wrong word but you know what i mean) people would use other, more cival methods...

China!!! I would love to see some of you pill munchers live to the laws of the peoples republic.

I'll answer the 3 questions:

Should a teacher be allowed to cane a child?
Depending on the severity of what the kid did, yes.

Which children would benefit from this caning?
All of them. It's an inbuilt mechanism in humans and other creatures, to learn when something causes a negative reaction that doing the same thing again will result in the same negative reaction. Unless the child is into sado-masochism, it wouldn't do it again.

What would they benefit?
Personally, they would benefit from the knowledge that doing something which is against rules produces a negative reaction.
It also benefits society as a whole. People who dont break rules makes for a better society.

You make of our comments whatever you want to hear Joe. Im sick of repeating myself

it doesn't.

i think if the former problem was solved the latter wouldnt be an issue.

in theory if the child had 'proper' parenting then it wouldn't need it...

a lot of 'problem children' do not have pyschological problems, apart from those caused by inproper upbringing in the 1st place...

I think a lot of charva mams give there Ryan's & Marry-Anne's good & "proper" moral & social values, I mean if you cant get moral & social values watching Eastenders, where can you get it?

i believe in smacking..but only if its your own child...the short sharp shock method works on everyone...toddlers threw adults...only as u get older, smacks on ur bum where it dont hurt, turn into slaps on the face where ur left with a hand print for a week.

caning is wrong tho imo. well, the way it used to be...u got a question wrong, u speak without putting ur hand up, and u got a cane across the palm of ur hands or back of ur legs.i dont think teachers have the right to disipline a child...its the responsibitity of the parent...unfortunatly paretns are doing it less and less...kids can get away with whatever they like in their own homes and think they can do the same in schools and public.

the only place for criminals is prison. it doesnt matter how old they are.

had a lad at my primary school came to cockerton because hed pulled a knife on a teacher...so they sent him to another school...where he did the same again...and then he went off to secondary school where it was a gun....nobody died...but if he hadnt just been given a slap on the wrists and told not to do it again the 1st time, he could have been in prison or at least a detention centre instead of pulling guns on his classmates.

nehow...thats my rant...no to caning, yes to smacking, yes to putting criminals away to learn their lessons instead of keeping them out to offend again.

Give me some examples....

I'm sorry but you aren't teaching a child right from wrong, your teaching a child that physically forcing someone into submission is ok... I don't want my child growing up with these vlaues... I know hundreds of parents who teach their children right from wrong without beating them... You have a very savage outlook on life if you think the only way to discipline a child is with force.

I can understand you wanting to discipline a problem child with cane, but again this achieves nothings - the problems in this scenario are usually so much deeper than lack of discipline - beating the kid will make no difference - the problems wont go away... these kids need helping not hitting.

For every child you beat a good teacher can get far greater results with positive discipline/encouragement.

And getting locked up ina young offenders home isn't a negative reaction?

Fink your talking shit mate... problem children know right from wrong.... Often they misbehave for the attention... Do you have any knowledge on the child psychee?

BEATINGA CHILD SI WRONG.

It installs the wrong values in that child, the victims are usually the wrong child (the idiot kid who can't stand up for himself), it can lead to long lasting psychoilogical probllems.... IT IS WRONG.

Actually agree with most of that

You may wear string vests and be completely psychotic - but you have good parental values

A lot of sense there. I never stole again after being whacked from my old boy after sticking the fingers in my maws purse.










That was last week right enough.

No shit... but something as trivial as a divorce can ahve huge reprecussions on a child...

And caning wont reverse these problems.

I was just about 2 say......very well said heather

i have never said it will...

the only way that works to make a person change is to take away something they value, such as they're freedom, but only they're freedom...

but that was aimed at adults... sorry not really in the right context for this thread

Alot of problem children dont go to school n e ways ...IMO the only thing bringing the cane back wud do is encourage more kids to leave school? Duno bout n e 1 here but i no i wud if they tried to cane me ?

The way schools are now, they couldnt just bring the cane back straight away, people would think it was a joke! Schools let pupils get away with far 2 much in school, but the teachers basically just say...if ur going 2 be a shit, fuck off, coz i am paid 2 teach u...and if ur going 2 be a twat dont come 2 my lesson.