Swine Flu

They never said I had it as such, i had a couple of the symptoms.
Andy had it, one of the lads who was away with us.
He's fine now though but we were all worried for him.

iv seen signs for the collection points on my way to work.

dont think i want the injection, dont want to take the risk with it being new and theres no point as it will mutate

It wont ever be as serious as man flu

We shouldn't be pissing all our tamiflu away on swine flu - better to save it for something more serious like bird flu.

Apparently the current flu vaccine may provide some cross cover.

why are you always some form of conspiracy theorist when it comes to medication? tamiflu will seriously increase your chances of survival if you do contract swine flu, as will relenza. neither of those just 'reduce the amount of time it takes to recover by a day or so', they're both neuraminidase inhibitors. several influenza viruses, included the h1n1 'swine flu' vaccine, 'spread' by binding to neuraminidase and thus replicating. both tamiflu and relenza (which, for some reason, nobody seems to be using) inhibit neuraminidase, thus prevent the virus from binding, thus prevent its spread. the implications of this are that it prevents the spread of the host, thus reduces the spread throughout more suceptible tissues and cells, and also reduces the risk of the virus spreading from host to host.

to put that in simple terms, if you contract h1n1 in your upper respiratory tract, you'll probably survive with a few weeks of anti-virals. if you get it in your lower respiratory tract, you're pretty much fucked. tamiflu is the best chance you've got of stopping it going that far.

i do agree with andy to an extent though, we shouldn't be getting rid of all of it on h1n1, it's probably only really necessarily for 'risk groups'. we do have a shedload of it that we stockpiled a few years ago though.

and jimmy - antivirals are antimicrobials, as are antibiotics, so they're of a similar category

Was only a matter of time before Dr Allie jumped in this thread

Thanks Allie you mong.

ha, i've just become AIB Williams, BSc (Hons)., thought i might as well put it to some use!

My work went into a panic last week as someone came back from Mexico and came into work despite feeling ill... got sent home immediately like. Not too worried myself, but we've got 3 lasses who've just come back off maternity leave who are pretty concerned. So far the only other people to call in sick saying they have symptoms are someone who'd just got back from Ibiza and the office hypochondriac.

my mates been confirmed and most of his mates are ill too, the doc said loads of people in toon have it..hes been given tamiful and been made house bound for a week

that's too much a generalisation. there's as much risk of death from the h1n1 vaccine as there is from a normal flu vaccine, or a mmr vaccine. are you opposed to those too?

you're confusing two things here. to 'cure' a disorder, the disease must first be in place. tamiflu prevents its spread, and also works as a prophylactic. if you're already taking tamiflu/relenza, the virus cannot bind, bud or spread throughout cells, thus both substances minimise or abolish infection/symptoms.

that's the whole point in a vaccine - a small amount of live virus so that the immune system can develop the lymphocytes and antibodies necessary to prevent infection if a larger dose is pathogen is contracted.

Tamiflu is being administered in capsule form and it works...

Swine Flu

Now in three schools in north tyneside

Mix your skeptical view on health and a shitload of smoking weed for years and you have my brother. He is currently in the kitchen checking for some sort of magnetic wave with a gadget he bought over the net.

This is what happens when you take skepticism too far.

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