UK better off with migrants

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  1. BRID

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    Another one to see the light at last ;)
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    We've decimated our important industries to make place for a 'knowledge economy' which amounts to little more than destroying our manufacturing base, and replacing it with a bunch of people in call centres waiting for the day when all their jobs get offshored anyways.
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    how will we be wheened away from cheap labour and cheap foreign imports? are you going to start buying expensive english guitars? get real. our tangent is not going to last forever whatever we do, but hiding behind a wall of tariffs or bans on imports won't work. It's just not a solution. We could try to protect what industry we do have from foreign takeovers I agree. does anyone beleive that the french would allow a company as big as scottish and newcastle (which is just about to be taken over by the dutch)to be taken into foreign ownership?
    yet the far right free marketeers have allowed that to happen to most things from the basic infrastructure to rolls royce.

    the three policies you pick are interesting in that they are all based on fear. And that same fear extends to foreigners and people who are different. so you better pray that the cause you are espousing never takes a hold or your race will be the ones to suffer yet again. you haven't learnt the lessons of history.
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    i await the day when we realise that we have been greedy fuckers and spunked all of our engineering talent away and ended up with it goons and bank officials.

    bring back ship building steel workers and miners ffs
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    Polskai Cafes are opening up in Newcastle now. 1st one was at the bottom of Newcastle tallest building (Bewick Court) & a new one is opening at what was the Wimpy restaurant at the Newgate Shopping Centre many moons ago. The Poles also run a night/nights at Stereo.

    If you want to make money out of Asylum seekers or immigrants don't bother aiming at the Polish market, go for Lithuanians or French speaking Africans vastly untapped markets in Newcastle.
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    Economic migrants will be gone just as quickly as they arrived when the next recession comes along and people become more frugal with their money.

    Theres no way to 'bring back' old industries - they appear or dissappear based on whether or not its economically viable for a business to set up and do business in a certain place ....... our high living costs and (maybe) the lack of any zoned economic zones in britain might have something to do with this - theres no profit to be made making anything here when theres people in eastern europe or china who can do the same thing for a fraction of the price.
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    Re: UK better off with migrants

    So we gain 0.9% of our taxes in a sense?

    So lets see, They contribute under 1%, murder, rape, steal and generally annoy the fuck out of "natives" to England. Don't even bother saying that British people do the same because its obvious, but there would be less Murdering, raping and stealing if they werent here.

    Not to mention gun crime.

    Is it any surprise that we get laughed at by other countries? We take in all the shit from them. If a man rapes a woman in south africa, then claims he is a victim of police brutality and we will welcome him with open arms, only for him to come over here and do the same. Then when he gets out of our already over-crowded jails he refuses deportation on the grounds that it is in violation of his human rights.

    Then all of these extra crimes that are being commited, all the police hours that go into it, they could be spent better possibly?

    It should be about the nations people, not the money. Send the whole lot back.
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    Those statistics are flawed.

    What percentage of migrants are economically active? For all we know 100% of migrants contribute to government expenditure, but say 50% of non migrants are.

    I know those figures are way off but they hardly show a true picture.
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    Im becoming anti immigration in recent times - which has nothing to do with the people themselves who i would generally say do a cracking job compared to their average 'brit'


    HOWEVER - regardless of how good an immigrant is, they are adding more and more strain to an already crumbling infrastructure which clearly cannot support more and more people using it, regardless of how good they are.

    By infrastructure i mean public transport, health, education, housing, the roads .... etc etc.

    Theres plenty of space here, but how much of that is 'useful' land that can be populated with an expanding number of people.... If it just means cramming yet more and more and more people into greater london, all of who need a way to get to work and a roof over their head.
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    cram em all into london. It's the way forward
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    I'm against immigration patterns but not for the reasons you stated.

    The services you gave as examples are on the whole run by immigrants.... if you have a working population then it tends to balance out (if it didn't ti would collapse) - my problem comes in what happens when these immigrants that the UK is dependent on go else where?

    The health service is a great example, say we hit a huge recession as you suggest and all our Kenyan doctors decide they can make more money back home or in another western nation - not only is our economy shattered but our health system will be on it's knees, and without a strong economy to atttract new migrants there will be no way repeair the health service.

    immigration = good
    immigration to replace british workers = bad
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    Yeah - immigration in the name of depressing wage growth and otherwise 'exploiting' those immigrants is economic suicide and one step closer to a new world order ;)

    There needs to be something done with the trend in agriculture and whatnot hiring 'gangs' for a days work ..... i dont see anything positive in that.
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    immigration will never work in any country !
    here in holland we have seen crime rise,and over 80% is commited by immigrants.

    we all find that these people will work hard for sure but they dont work hard for long *only until they start breeding* then they become just as lazy and greedy as the people in uk who are lazy & greedy.they start organising criminal gangs,maffia's,prostitution,drugs,guns,etc etc
    these people never see the uk as there home therefore they dont care for it and never will.
    "when a burglar breaks into your home they dont tidy up after themselves"
    just drive down any back street in fenham,elswick,benwell and its full ov rubbish they just throw over thier back walls.
    how does it benefit the uk if they start shopping in their own stores buying produce that is made by their own country and sold to you by their own working in the shop.

    we need to stop it right now,we are massively overpopulated not just as a country but as a world.and the people breeding the most are the ones that have nothing !!
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    cut off their goolies
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    aye all them doctors, nurses, engineers and teachers love the guns and ho's like. the chinese and african cleaners at my work might be cheerful but i can see them dishing crack n smack out on the side, must be the rolex's they wear.

    you're right, i've never seen any of them shopping in me local somerfield either, it's a disgrace. we don't need key workers anyway.

    SEND THE BUGGERS BACK.
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    aye and then send all the english that are scattered all over the globe ruining places like holland back here. that'd work.
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    if we didn't spend so much on booze and tourist tat then no one would have us anyway!
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    bet the spanish would be glad to get shut of the old dears who moved there and are now eating up the spanish healthcare system :D
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    The lad has a point with over population.

    The uk is so cramped and built up immagration needs to be thought about carefully in how it may affect the future.
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    Mass culling of the long term able bodied unemployed :up:

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