Our country is a shambles and an embarrassment....

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  1. Conway

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    Because to be "ethnic British", you'd have to be descended from Germans (Anglos, Saxons, Jutes, Germanic), French (Normans), Italians (Romans), or Scandinavians (Vikings), as well as Celts...

    Sounds ethnic enough to me ;)
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    This theory was blown out of the water years ago. It WAS thought we were made up dna wise, mainly of germans tribes and rampaging vikings. But Mass DNA samples were taken from uk residents and it was found suprising that our main dna was still that of ethnical english (people resident here prior to the romans)

    The % even amazed me.. pretty sure from memory it was more than 70%.

    Thats another FAIL son.

    Brush those shoulders off
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    Also... if this woman dosnt like Immigrants and Blacks, WHAT THE FUCK WASA SHE DOING ON PUBLIC TRANSPORT
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    Wrong again. Genetic studies of samples of male DNA taken around the country have shown that up to half of them depending on region show genetic markers indicating Anglo Saxon descent, with the rest showing markers also present in Norman, Roman, Gaelic, Scandinavian, and Celtic genetic makeup.

    The people here prior to the Romans? Ethnic Celts (who migrated here from Anatolia, now Turkey), Belgic Gauls (believed to be German from Roman records), and Basque settlers from Southern France/Northern Spain, from which 80% of Europeans are descended.

    http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2006/10/mythsofbritishancestry/

    Try doing some proper research into your claims instead of making them up to oppose whatever point I put to you ;)
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    And anyway what the fuck difference does it make if you were the offspring of a celt or a viking or a turk? you are born a human being. Cultural differences are learnt. I feel I have more in common with a Greek than I do with Pike. My son is a quarter Greek. So what? what earthly fucking difference does it make? people are people wherever they are born.
  6. Conway

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    My point is that everyone who lives or is born here is an immigrant or descended from one, there's no such thing as a "native brit" or "native english" as we're all descended from different races, different countries, different groups. Our own language is a mixture of old Latin, Germanic, Gaelic, and Celtic, and clinging onto the illusion of "natives" vs "immigrants" and us v them is a load of bollocks, used by scared little bigots to justify hatred and discrimination against people who look or act different.
  7. Congay

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    Complete bullshite.

    Unless you mean we all came from Africa ?

    The majority of our DNA is the same as it was BEFORE the last ice age.

    Ill see if I can find the study when I can be bothered. Pissing on you is a habit I just cant break the cycle. Its my main hobby
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    Its make a hell of a difference when you are handing out tax payers money to them.

    But I agree, People are people everyones the same. But people also make their own beds and just because Africa and the USSR pissed in theirs dosnt mean they can fucking climb in my super kingsize with me.
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    Right lets go into this Conway you buffoon. I am looking forward to your answers.

    How is it possible that "everyone that lives here is an immigrant or descended from one" ?? I can see only TWO WAYS that could happen. Ill list them then you give me you answer to IF you beleived this to be the case.

    1) WERE THE ISLANDS NOW KNOWN AS THE UNITED KINGDON UNINHABITED AT A POINT IN HUMAN HISTORY? IF SO WHEN.

    2) WAS THERE A OF CASE INVASION AND THEN OF MASS GENOCIDE WERE THE INHABITANTS OF THE ISLANDS NOW KNOW AS THE UNITED KINGDON WERE WIPED OUT? IF SO WHO AND WHEN.

    3) IF THE ANSWER TO THE ABOVE IS NO & NO CAN YOU THEN ENLIGHTEN US ON HOW ITS POSSIBLE THAT ""everyone that lives here is an immigrant or descended from one"

    I await your reply
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    Iv been seeing loads of comments on facebook about this..people saying they are 'shocked' at it..really? shocked? do they never leave the house or something?
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  11. Conway

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    Amusing. You can only concieve of two possible ways it could happen and you are incapable of understanding anything that does not agree with your narrow minded viewpoint :lol:

    Were the UK isles ever uninhabited? Probably not, there's always been evidence of man right back as far as the bronze age.

    Has there been invasions of the UK? Yes, repeatedly, with at least 12 different invasions of England, not counting the invasions of Wales, Scotland, Ireland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_the_British_Isles

    The answer to 1) and 2) can be no, if other groups have settled here and interbred with anyone here previously. This process has happened over hundreds of thousands of years, with the most recent examples being the groups outlined above. That would mean we are all indirectly descended from racial groups who has moved to this country from elsewhere.

    Case in point - the Anglo Saxon dominance in the UK genome in my previous link was thought to be the result of a mass genocide (as there was only believed to be 200,000 Saxon immigrants to the UK vs the native Celts living here). What modern geneticists and historians now believe is that some sort of prehistoric apartheid took place, where a Saxon upper class ruling over the UK dominated public life and slowly displaced the Celts from positions of power and control of land.

    I'm still waiting to see your "article" that claims we are all mainly descended from native UK Neanderthals? :lol:
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    You tell us then... what other way it is possible that "everyone that lives here is an immigrant or descended from one"
    then? Interbreeding isnt one by the way.

    So your main point seems to be other people came here and "interbred" with us. So does that then register us as void as a race?

    No we carry both DNA in a almost percentage form and the much highest percentage form is native british.

    You just proven my point for me by nring unable to expalin your own comical statement that "everyone who lives or is born here is an immigrant or descended from one"
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    Nah its just very cosher to say your shocked by these kinds of things. It makes people feel more grown up and intelligent to say "oh thats terrible" and "eeeeh thats racist you cant say that"

    Most people dont have a fucking clue about what they are regurgitating these days.
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    You say that as if its some kind of marker for a long time ago? lol Your just showing your naivety here.

    There’s evidence of highly evolved humans living and even farming to some extent here even before the Pyramids were build.

    I know from memory people were here 4000 BCE probs a lot longer than that.

    So that’s a long long time before anyone started mucking about with molten metal. :lol:
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    This is totally mad. Are we to deduce from this that you believe that only people who'se DNA is 100% pre Celtic are to be allowed to remain in the UK? Should we all be tested then deported or gas chambered if found to be 'contaminated' with DNA from stone age people living on other bits of the planet ??? WTF ??

    How do you know whether you would pass the test yourself?

    And yes, if we as a race interbred with other races it does render us void as a race. How can it be otherwise. Take a look around you hair, eyes, skin - we got every variation on the planet living here and I say we're a mongrel race and all the better for it. I'm proud to be in a part of the world where all the races are mixed.

    People have been coming here from all around the world as invaders, settlers, workers, allies, tourists and slaves for thousands of years. They all ended up shagging the natives. I'm glad. It's made us strong.
    Fear of something different is just that. Fear. Our culture has changed and been changed by all the immigrants. It made us strong.

    Racism isn't shocking. I'm not shocked by your racism. I think it's pitiful and I feel sorry for you and your narrow minded fear of others. It's not shocking, it's sad.
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  16. Ian Cox

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    I'm amused that starting this thread has managed to reduce you lot into a mass debate (childish chuckle at mass debate) on the subject of history, ethics, genepools and biological makeup of the human race. I feel it says a lot for how strongly everyone wishes to be involved in some sort of racist debate that this has been taken to such a serious and argumentative level. I'm enjoying this so keep up the good work chaps
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    On a lighter note.......

    Heres the crazy Taxi Drivers view on the original post ;)

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  18. Shortee

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    This thread is a crease! Does it really matter?
    My sperm donor (or father as others call him) is Greek Cypriot, my mother was born in Wales to a Scottish mother and father born in Germany (both his parents English) does that mean I'm not British?! Course it doesn't! I was born and raised here, and I'm proud of my fucked up roots!!
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    Here here - lets fuck the roots up even more :lol:
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    get back to Cyprus. And Germany and Wales and Scotland. Coming over here scrounging our benefits, breeding like a rabbit, can't speak the language zzzzzzzzzz

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