Invisible Empire..

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  1. Rossy

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    Can't sleep, just stuck this on.
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    Rory, @Rossy has a point. You say you believe all of this stuff and it convinces you that there is a NWO, yet when everyone on here starts slating it, you're unable to provide a convincing argument to support your point of view? If it was as plausible as you make out, you wouldn't have any problem defending it.

    @BRID and @forks can put their points across (and do so) in the face of criticism, yet the closest you come to a defence is that "our brains are too small to take in all of this shit" as per your deleted posts.

    My opinion? This world has a population of nearly 7 billion people, I fail to see how any covert or overt organisation (numbering even into the hundreds of thousands or millions) is incapable of holding control or power over all of them. It's not doubt in your beliefs or those of these conspiracy theorists, it's because of the sheer logistics involved in that level of control - its virtually impossible to keep concealed or to make it work effectively.

    Look up Occam's Razor (scientific principle). The simplest explanation is most likely the correct one (although not always the most accurate).

    I believe if publicly visible, powerful organisations such as the UN, Arab League, NATO, and others are incapable of exercising world control in the manner that you believe these smaller, more covert organisations are capable of doing, then it is physically impossible and improbable. The UN/Nato in particular have proved that they are toothless and ineffective in the face of a crisis (Libya, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Iraq pt 2, Iran, Syria, the Middle East etc) and it takes them weeks and months to respond to a serious problem. And both organisations are made up of representatives of the majority of nations/governments on this planet. A smaller secret society would have no chance. The more people that are involved, the more scope and ability they provide for control of others, but at a disadvantage - more people try to push their own agendas.

    Saying that our skulls are too small to take it all in is a pretty pathetic argument - a lot of the users on this board are educated, open-minded, and capable of critical reasoning and thought (myself included). If the facts, theories and arguments you've laid out were so convincing, they would stand up to scrutiny by anyone, including the users of this site :)

    Going back to Occam's Razor, and comparing it to this video, the author of the youtube clip is taking facts and factual events and removing their context, then using them to argue something completely unrelated. We know that winter happens every year, and we know that birds fly south before winter, but if I remove the context from both events, I could argue that birds flying south every year causes winter to happen. Just because two events are linked does not mean one causes the other. Correlation does not imply causation :wink:
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    I tried to watch it all Rory, I did. But the way it used factoids and then made something of them that wasn't there just wore me out after 20 mins. There wasn't one thing in the first 20 mins that gave me pause for thought except I got angry at the bloke and had to turn his hectoring bullshit off.
    I'm glad you posted it though. Debate is good. Thinking about why the world is like it is is good. I can't agree with what's said in that video but it's made a lot of people think and maybe made them less inclined to take what governments and the papers say at face value.
    Listen to Press TV, Al Jazeera, Russian English languageTV, Euronews, Fox TV, BBC, Wikileaks, they all report the same events from radically different viewpoints. They all have their own agendas and their own backers and paymasters. We are not fed a homogeneous viewpoint if we choose not to be. None of them tell the truth, but then neither does anyone who wants to make you believe something.

    If there were a New World Order being organised covertly I think that would be rather more comforting than believing that there is no one in charge and we're all going to hell in a handcart. That's why religion works and why, ultimately people want to believe in it. And why the NWO debate continues. It doesn't rely on evidence, it relies on faith
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    President Bush wasnt in charge, that was obvious. So that answers the question really... as to who is in charge? i dont care i can bet hes white and christian though so we are in good hands
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    I think posts like this should be encouraged, it beats most of the crap on the box anyway - I'm always looking for new stuff to watch when I've got free time
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    2,600 posts of boring, unjustified, ineloquent nonsense!
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    Are you smoking weed when you are doing this net based NWO 'research' Rory? My brother got heavily into conspiracy theories at the same time as smoking up to an ounce a week. He is doing ok today but only after some heavy anti psychotic medication.
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    jimi you are a legend but the sun is a cunting tory paper that said the liverpol fans who got crushed at hillsbrough were pickpocketingh people.

    i buy the mirror
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    I like watching and reading about this conspiricacy shit tbh, But Facts are what make a better story, start looking for stuf on MKultra .

    Brainwashing...far more intresting and does happen amongst us.
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