ITN journalist unlawfully killed.

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    ITN journalist unlawfully killed.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6046950.stm

    Damn right he was.

    Here's hoping our director of prosecutions has some balls and gets the cogs turning for criminal proceedings.

    Maybe it will make trigger-happy American troops think twice about shooting directly at a car with 'media' plastered all over it, without warning shots. Or any other civilians for that matter.

    Oh, and 'losing' the crucial video footage of their either incompetence or maliciousness.
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    trigger happy yanks?

    Its a fucking warzone!
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    Good reason to shoot an independent journalist in a civilian minibus moving away from them :up:

    Clear and present danger :up:

    All rules suspended once you're in a warzone :up:
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    Thank fuck we have journalists prepared to take risks to get information out of these places, who knows what bollocks we'd have to put up with if the only reporters were embedded with troops :up:
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    journalists in warzones should expect to get shot...
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    Soldiers in warzones should take appropriate care not to shoot/bomb innocents. This does not reflect appropriate care, according to all the evidence available in my book.

    We know we disagree on what constitutes 'care', why argue?
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    saw it on the news... 1st bullet was iraqi - POSSIBLY survivable, 2nd bullet in the head - US cross fire.

    it's sad but it is a war zone
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    My bro has told me stories about how retarded they are. He said they were opening fire on british army driven vehicles for a giggle. Total hero wannabees too, no wonder there are twice as many dead US soldiers than our lads. I have videos on my computer that you wouldnt believe, they are idiots.
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    :up:
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    Yeah, they cant expect to be safe :up:
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    There's an obvious and inevitable risk in going - that doesn't mean if he was unlawfully killed it should be passed off.

    But anyone who thinks he was lawfully shot should consider:

    a) What risk did he pose to the Americans who shot him?
    b) Why did they break from their rules of engagement and shoot directly at the civilian car, without warning shots?

    Troops have a responsibility, however unenviable, for their actions in any situation including a conflict, and having lethal weapons increases this responsibility.
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    Didn't they kill more British troops than the Iraqi's in the first Gulf war? :think:
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    I suppose civilians in warzones should expect to get shot too.

    Oh no wait, journalists are civilians.
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    they were supposed to be acting as policemen not soldiers. So they were supposed to fire in self defence only. That said they were probably standing at the checkpoint shitting themselves and expecting to be shot at any minute. Doesn't excuse it but who knows how we would act in a similar situation.
    very harsh to say that journalists should expect to be killed though. They are unarmed non combatants and should be respected as such. they are very brave and committed individuals IMO
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    Joe, I used to have a lot of time for your comments in this forum but they are becoming increasingly irrational, and seemingly only posted to provoke others into 'biting.'

    Should we take these comments as a genuine reflection of your beliefs or a petty wind-up??
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    combatants in warzones should expect to get shot, journalists in warzones should expect to get shot, civilians in warzones should expect to get shot... anyone in a warzone should expect to get shot.

    Its a fucking warzone not a picnic.

    I have far more sympathy for civilians caught in the crossfire than journalists, civilians often have no choice as to whether they are caught in the conflict... journalists like soldiers willingly travel into the area... whether their actions are noble or ignoble is inconsequential.

    They have concsiously chosen to enter a region where death surrounds them... they must expect the same fate.
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    I agree with Joe :eek:
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    you fucking jewmo :love:
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    of course they shouldnt 'expect' to get shot just because they're in a war zone.

    they should however expect an increased likelihood in the possiblilty of being injured or killed. ;)
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    Quite right.

    However, this doesn't absolve soldiers from blame if they have irresponsibly acted and caused death as a result.

    I'll ask you again Joe, what threat did this journalist pose to the American troops who killed him?

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