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Health and Safety killed a grandad

Discussion in 'News & Current Affairs' started by ManofScience, Jul 6, 2009.

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  1. ManofScience

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  2. Conway

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    stupidity rather than a sign of the times.

    someone that fucking thick shouldn't be in a position where they can risk people's lives.

    As for H&S, it's a necessary evil, innit?
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    "society" has gone too far ... in the wrong direction, and no longer fulfills its purpose. I'm sure people will jump to disagree en masse with me though ;)

    People are afraid to even fulfill their most basic biological instincts (protecting themselves or other people) to the point where essentially people are left to die while we stand around and ponder whether we are 'allowed' to do anything.

    Same thing happened with the kid that was drowning in a pond, while two non-cops (PSCO officers) just stood there debating whether or not they could. The kid died.

    More symptoms of an empire accellerating its decline.
  4. ManofScience

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    People aren't thinking about others anymore only ever about themselves.

    it's a downward spiral for humanity.
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    its dog eat dog the sooner you get tooled up and start protecting yours the better. iv been doing this for years. the countrys forgot you , time to make your own rules
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    It's not health & safety it's the sheer inability of the pleb who was first at the scene to weigh up the situation in less than a minute. All paramedics/first aiders etc hae been taught for years that your own personal safety is paramount when going to see someone who has had an accident or rang an ambulance.

    It's nothing to do with not puttign others first it's simply because if you put yourself in danger then what use are you?

    The first part of any first aid is to access the situation. Unfortunatly for the bloke who died, he had an idiout who couldn't do that.

    Surely he should have been able to weigh up the situation in a hell of a lot less than 16 minutes that it wasn't a robbery as they will have been no sign of forced entry, the door was simply left open. He could have came to that conclusion in no time at all and even shouted out at the door to the poor bloke who's dying to see if anything was wrong other than the fact he was struggling to breath.

    It's one persons idocy rather than the whole "health & safety" culture.
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    there is no way that would have happened if the H&S culture didn't exist. It's completely out of control now. Boils my piss
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    Fair enough, if you need to rescue or treat someone in a confined space situation (like down a drain or a valve pit), then I can see why something like this would happen (carbon monoxide poisoning etc). Unless you are certified to enter a confined space and have breathing apparatus on you, then its often best to leave them be - you’re only going to go the same way.

    And yeah, H&S, is a necessary evil, especially in construction - I nearly lost a hand due to a pikey Irish company flouting H&S regulations. Its when the necessary construction H&S regulations overlap with service based industries that the problems start.
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    He (im ASSSUMING) was sent to the scene because a guy called up to say he was in pain, and was TOLD to leave the door open. It begs the question WHY he then stood outside and filled out some form.

    Granted, this is the Sun we are reading from, which is to be taken with a tub of saxa salt as a source of news ;)

    It still shows that blame culture, diminished personal responsibility and the idea of 'authorities' controlling decision making processes have evolved to the point where our natural instincts are increasingly numbed.

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